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SiriSpy – iOS bug allowed apps to eavesdrop on your conversations with Siri

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Re: SiriSpy – iOS bug allowed apps to eavesdrop on your conversations with Siri

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It’s anti dictionary when it actually says the words what it’s about to do when you press the button? How much clearer could it be.

The button no longer Turns Off the Bluetooth radio. The same button in Control Center previously Turned Off the Bluetooth radio. The button does not do what it (a) claims to do, (b) previously did.

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Re: SiriSpy – iOS bug allowed apps to eavesdrop on your conversations with Siri

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Even worse, Control Panel buttons only "suspend" BT/WiFi, you have to go into Settings to turn them off again ... and again ... and again.

As a half solution: You can create a Shortcut that turns of BT/Wi-Fi completely. You can then add that Shortcut to your home screen for easy access. That's what I do and it's way nicer than going to Settings, though I wish it was just in Control Center.

how do you do this?

Re: SiriSpy – iOS bug allowed apps to eavesdrop on your conversations with Siri

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And this is why I have the internal microphone disconnected on my macbook pro. The only time a mike is attached is when I'm actively using it, and even then they have hardware kill switches. Simple kill switches would be nice to see but I doubt Apple would ever implement something like that.

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National security is nothing more than the sum total of the individual securities of each citizen.

If your granny cannot trust technology not to have her bank account emptied by criminals, and Bob the local businessman cannot have a conversation free from casual industrial espionage of competitors, then that's national security. We live within nations that prosper as a result of our individual prosperity, and which perform a duty of care to protect those citizens.

The phrase took on grandiose and "special interest" tones during the Cold War and Vietnam era, particularly under Nixon.

But this is 2022, and I urge you to carefully rethink what that phrase means in a connected and increasingly hostile world. Everyone's privacy is a small part of National Security.

Re: SiriSpy – iOS bug allowed apps to eavesdrop on your conversations with Siri

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Siri handles this fine on my new phone from the opposite end of the globe. This seems to support my suspicion that they ship increasingly less sophisticated Siris to increasingly older phones. Siri on my 6S Plus before this became almost useless once they switched to on-device processing. It's also much better at identifying objects in photos for searches.

I'm querying siri on a homepod, not a phone. And I just checked - she still answers with a weather report near "Sidney Tools". (Its currently raining and 17 degrees C, if you're wondering.) I have a running theory that you can tell how long any FAANG bug will stick around by just imagining a 25 year old tech dude in the bay area. If Dave the bay area tech dude will never encounter the bug, you're in for a bad time. F…

I run into some things like this in Georgia. I wanted to know when the humidity and temperature were low enough to be safe. It's always nice in that part of California, so Siri has no concept of humidity and temperature. It just throws out a general weather report. The weather app at least has graphs for UV index, humidity, and temperature now. I think it must have come by way of Dark Sky.

This isn't just a SV thing, though. I downloaded a well-regarded weather app from a country in Europe that has pretty consistent humidity. The app didn't even show humidity. People have trouble seeing outside their bubble. SV just happens to have outsized influence, for now.

Re: SiriSpy – iOS bug allowed apps to eavesdrop on your conversations with Siri

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> but I can imagine how frustrating it would be if someone called and I didn't have my headset. "Sorry, I don't have a headset right now, we'll have to talk later". It's not that "frustrating", really.

“Why aren’t you able to dial in with just your computer?” “Oh, you know, I’m a bit paranoid about my microphone being hacked so I disconnected the microphone internally. If you give me 10 minutes, I can put it back together real quick” Not the vibe I personally wanna be giving friends and colleagues.

If you are too weak to admit this is important to you, just go the "it's broken" route.

Re: SiriSpy – iOS bug allowed apps to eavesdrop on your conversations with Siri

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It’s anti dictionary when it actually says the words what it’s about to do when you press the button? How much clearer could it be.

The button no longer Turns Off the Bluetooth radio. The same button in Control Center previously Turned Off the Bluetooth radio. The button does not do what it (a) claims to do, (b) previously did.

And my car no longer comes with a cassette player. But it also says “CD Player” on it just in case you try to stick one in.

Re: SiriSpy – iOS bug allowed apps to eavesdrop on your conversations with Siri

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> I know people that use dictation for the majority of their text messages and email. Yeah, I'm one of them. The iOS keyboard has slowly become so bad that it's easier to dictate instead, and my partner does the same while driving via CarPlay. This is horrible to read about.

I recently saw a conversation somewhere about this, people said turning off swipe-typing made a significant difference in the keyboard experience. Haven't tested it myself as I use swipe, and have no issues. But might be worth a try.

I saw that too. It definitely helps! But it’s still less accurate somehow even than it used to be afterwards

Re: SiriSpy – iOS bug allowed apps to eavesdrop on your conversations with Siri

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> Can physical microphones be removed from Apple devices by a repair shop, while still allowing use of wired/wireless headsets? Yes, this is what I do. The mike is actually still in the laptop but it's disconnected from the motherboard. On a 2021 M1 Macbook pro all you need to do is pop off the back cover and disconnect one cable on the right side of the motherboard. All in all takes about 10 minutes of work.

There actually is a physical microphone disconnect for new Mac laptops (~2019 and later). When the clamshell is closed, the mic’s connection to the MLB is physically severed. I actually just learned this exists on new iPad models too, with any MFi-compliant case! I know this isn’t strictly relevant, since the vulnerability discussed here is during active use, just thought you might find it interesting. https://suppor…

It's not a physical disconnect. More like firmware disconnect. Purism have a physical kill switch for the microphone in their laptop.

Re: SiriSpy – iOS bug allowed apps to eavesdrop on your conversations with Siri

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Android it works pretty much perfectly and you can speak at normal speed. With Android it pretty much works perfectly and you can speak at normal speed. <== Same sentence dictated at full speed.

Yeah not for me. Android, nor Siri, nor Alexa.

Accent? This is me speaking through a mask at normal speed. The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog - that was spoken really fast.

Obviously depends on what you're speaking because sentences like the previous one are pretty easy to predict.

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