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Re: Fake Books

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post #223

One of the things that has kept me out of the cryptocurrency space is that when their advocates discuss value, they speak in pure nonsense. A big part of that problem is that value is very difficult to discuss. On the one hand you have the classic goldbug that insists that gold has "intrinsic value", which is some sort of platonic ideal thing that gold simply ambiently has and defies any attempt to nail down what it…

"Mathemetics" Is this the regurgitative didactic method I keep hearing about?

Ah yes, sorry, fixed. Meant to spell "mathememetics" correctly.

Re: Fake Books

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post #231

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"Mathemetics" Is this the regurgitative didactic method I keep hearing about?

Ah yes, sorry, fixed. Meant to spell "mathememetics" correctly.

Mathememetics, the study of the spread of ideas that seem rigorous, but aren’t.

Re: Fake Books

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post #224

I would like to mention the concept of "Soulbound Tokens" as a way of attacking this problem. This is the subject of a paper this year by Vitalik Buterin (founder of Ethereum), E. Glen Weyl (economist/researcher at Microsoft Research) and Puja Ohlhaver. Here's the abstract: """ Web3 today centers around expressing transferable, financialized assets, rather than encoding social relationships of trust. Yet many core ec…

aliations -> affiliations hyper-nancialization -> hyper-financialization Maybe more. Did cut and paste do this?

Hmm. Yeah. Let me look through and try to fix that. Very weird. But thanks for point it out!!

[Update: I fixed the ones I could find.]

Re: Fake Books

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I would like to mention the concept of "Soulbound Tokens" as a way of attacking this problem. This is the subject of a paper this year by Vitalik Buterin (founder of Ethereum), E. Glen Weyl (economist/researcher at Microsoft Research) and Puja Ohlhaver. Here's the abstract: """ Web3 today centers around expressing transferable, financialized assets, rather than encoding social relationships of trust. Yet many core ec…

I honestly can’t tell if this abstract is also GPT-3 generated.

No, it's the real thing. Go to the paper. But somehow, copy-paste added typos which I am going to try and fix.

Re: Fake Books

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I don't think it's that scary. I mean it's basically spam isn't it? The only thing new is the volume in which you can produce surface-level-indistinguishable spam. It is now cheaper to produce lots of flowery, meaningless text that is full of definitions. I suspect that the future of literature is more concise and externally-meaningful writing. Amazon is a terrible marketplace insofar as the rating system isn't sybil…

The fake books in the OP article are all used in garbage NFT scams. They're intended to produce an air of legitimacy for whoever publishes them. Whether they're actually sold or not is meaningless. It's rather all about clickbaitability and their use as a "legitimacy-dressing" surrounding some scammers' call-to-action button. I think it is somewhat scary that these things can't just be instantly pulled from wherever…

I doubt it. Where's your proof?

Re: Fake Books

#236
There will come a time when only experts on a given topic will be able to separate fact from fiction.

I would expect that AI will get good at internally consistent content _first_, so this work would make sense on its own even if it’s nonsense in actuality. Talk about bubbles.

Re: Fake Books

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post #223

One of the things that has kept me out of the cryptocurrency space is that when their advocates discuss value, they speak in pure nonsense. A big part of that problem is that value is very difficult to discuss. On the one hand you have the classic goldbug that insists that gold has "intrinsic value", which is some sort of platonic ideal thing that gold simply ambiently has and defies any attempt to nail down what it…

The value of something is simply what other people are willing to pay for it.

Re: Fake Books

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post #10

This has been a concern of mine for a while; I have also published absolute garbage just to see how far I can take it. I've published music under various pseudonyms, books underneath different pen-names... the list goes on. I've retracted such publications, but it is frightening if one person like myself had the curiosity to try, what is already out there, and, what a well-funded nation-state actor could do. ---- Pos…

It can’t be hard to curate and edit the output of the AIs. I imagine that is already happening. AI does the heavy lifting making the cost of production possibly an order of magnitude lower. Couple that with some other AI tools like unifying voice across many sections and fixing grammar mistakes, a nation-state could create a very effective propaganda machine to manipulate their enemies with basic language proficiency.

Re: Fake Books

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I think NKRFZ had a video about a weird genre of pro-war fiction that is published en mass in Russia and promoted quite alot, but which does not really sell.

Pro-war fiction? That's like the standard movie for several decades from Rambo to Michael Bay's epics and Top Gun Maverick, and in movie form that has far wider appeal, 10000x the audiences, and is way more glamorous! "weird pro war fiction" would be very low in effectiveness...

The original Rambo was actually anti-war. Did you even watch it?

Re: Fake Books

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Pro-war fiction? That's like the standard movie for several decades from Rambo to Michael Bay's epics and Top Gun Maverick, and in movie form that has far wider appeal, 10000x the audiences, and is way more glamorous! "weird pro war fiction" would be very low in effectiveness...

michael bay and top gun, sure, but rambo? I don't remember that having a particularly pro-war attitude.

That's because it's about PTSD.

I suspect the commenter is either ignorant or just decided to roll in all the terrible sequels...

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