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Re: Google Adsense/Admob blocks you for life if you use it before you're 18

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Post by bombcar »

RajT88 wrote: post #182
Shank wrote: post #15

As someone who operated on the "adult internet" with payment processors and related infrastructure without being 18, I still carry forward the constant fear that I'll be banned for retroactive Terms of Service violations incurred when I was a kid. It really sucks when it's services like AdSense because you're just screwed forever. I really really wish the internet was more supportive of "early hackers" who want to ex…

The old apocryphal tale comes to mind of the CD clubs. -Everyone knew a person back in the day who signed up for the CD clubs promising dollar CD's, or 10 for a dollar. Whatever the various deals were. -With those deals came a commitment to buy 10 - 20 more albums at full price. -You sign a contract agreeing to this. -So the friend-of-a-friend signed it while under 18 and a minor. -They then tell the CD club that the…

In my era they didn't even have much of a requirement to buy that many, it was like signup and get 10 or 20 CDs if you buy two, and then they'd keep sending you CDs that you had to say "return" on for a year or so.

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Post by MichaelCollins »

pb7 wrote: post #227
MichaelCollins wrote: post #213

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Is it insufferably arrogant to ask people to stop using insensitive, hateful, or discriminatory words? When that word is 'dystopia', yeah. Getting this offended about a megacorp being called dystopian is insufferable. Whatever your relationship is to Google, it doesn't warrant this level of personal attachment. You're acting like he insulted your own mother or something.

I’m not offended in the least, I’m just tired of reading melodramatic takes from people who haven’t experienced any hardship. It’s a common theme here and I want it to be better. Let’s attribute the correct level of concern to things instead of calling keeping track of people who defrauded you “dystopian”. There’s literally a war happening and an actual real government cutting off communications to its people so that…

> insensitive, hateful, or discriminatory

That's how you characterized it. You're clearly offended, that's why you're throwing around DEI buzzwords.

Re: Google Adsense/Admob blocks you for life if you use it before you're 18

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Post by lupire »

kweingar wrote: post #67
testfoobar wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps you did not note that the banned person was 16 years old. There should be very few actions with life long consequences for any 16 year old. Their prefrontal cortex is not fully developed. They experiment and engage with the world to learn its boundaries and limits. Click fraud for $80 when 16yo does not warrant a lifetime ban.

I wish people showed more grace to young people. Another example along your lines: many were quick to declare that the chess player Hans Niemann ought to be banned from the sport because he admitted to cheating at online no-stakes chess games when he was 16. He is accused (without evidence) of cheating again, and people are latching on to the "once a cheater, always a cheater" mentality.

He's 19. He cheated and then lied about it, and continued lying about it until very very recently, and credibly allegedly is still lying about it. His coach is also an unapologetic cheater in a Titled tournament. He deserves to still be on probation, not playing with world champions.

Re: Google Adsense/Admob blocks you for life if you use it before you're 18

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Post by pb7 »

MichaelCollins wrote: post #232
pb7 wrote: post #227

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m not offended in the least, I’m just tired of reading melodramatic takes from people who haven’t experienced any hardship. It’s a common theme here and I want it to be better. Let’s attribute the correct level of concern to things instead of calling keeping track of people who defrauded you “dystopian”. There’s literally a war happening and an actual real government cutting off communications to its people so that…

> insensitive, hateful, or discriminatory That's how you characterized it. You're clearly offended, that's why you're throwing around DEI buzzwords.

I wasn’t referring to dystopia being any of those, I was making the point that requesting certain words not be used is fine and common.

Re: Google Adsense/Admob blocks you for life if you use it before you're 18

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Post by [deleted] »

Shank wrote: post #15

As someone who operated on the "adult internet" with payment processors and related infrastructure without being 18, I still carry forward the constant fear that I'll be banned for retroactive Terms of Service violations incurred when I was a kid. It really sucks when it's services like AdSense because you're just screwed forever. I really really wish the internet was more supportive of "early hackers" who want to ex…

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Re: Google Adsense/Admob blocks you for life if you use it before you're 18

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Post by lupire »

stjohnswarts wrote: post #169
doodlesdev wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I beg do differ. When I was a kid I used to have a YouTube channel with AdSense. Difference being I actually read the ToS and decided that it would be my parents channel, only I would be recording. Never clicked on my channels ads (in fact that's when I started using AdBlockers, for the sole purpose of not generating fraudulent ad revenue). Reading at 16 years old is not that hard. I created that YouTube channel much…

This idea of never forgive, never forget is why the USA has the highest incarceration rate in the world. Punishment is the singular goal, and rehabilitation is considered weakness. This kind of thinking is antisocial and serves no purpose other than some kind of revenge fantasy.

Nah, US incarcerated is due to deep-seated racism and profit motive.

Re: Google Adsense/Admob blocks you for life if you use it before you're 18

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Post by omniglottal »

Why must we continually revisit the pragma for why to treat people as innocent until proven guilty?? Yes, it takes more effort and, yes, there is more apparent/immediate risk, but the rationale is sound, given dynamics of any system needing generalized governance. It doesn't matter that it's lawful for these corporations to circumvent and entirely go against the patriotic creed of the country where they're founded and operate - the matter is still relevant - the principle exists for very good reason, and is applicable to more than just government. What happened to "doing the right thing" regardless of shortsighted, incomplete rationale being applied and (unfathomably) acceptable to people whose very livelihood hinges on this ongoing presumption of innocence?

Re: Google Adsense/Admob blocks you for life if you use it before you're 18

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Post by lupire »

pazimzadeh wrote: post #5

I received a lifelong ban on using Google Ad products when I was 16 after experimenting with clicking my own ads (and asking my high school friends to click on them). I remember the account accumulated almost $80 before Google detected the suspicious activity and banned me. Given that this was 16 years ago, it would be nice to get second chance..

Who is banned? Your first @gmail.com address?

If you weren't 18, how did they know who you were?

Re: Google Adsense/Admob blocks you for life if you use it before you're 18

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Post by pazimzadeh »

lupire wrote: post #238
pazimzadeh wrote: post #5

I received a lifelong ban on using Google Ad products when I was 16 after experimenting with clicking my own ads (and asking my high school friends to click on them). I remember the account accumulated almost $80 before Google detected the suspicious activity and banned me. Given that this was 16 years ago, it would be nice to get second chance..

Who is banned? Your first @gmail.com address? If you weren't 18, how did they know who you were?

Yes. I have not tried using a different gmail address. I am not sure if they have my SSN on record or not, it was a long time ago, I don't remember what information I gave them but I did use my real name.
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