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Jack Dorsey texts Elon Musk, March 26, 2022

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Re: Jack Dorsey texts Elon Musk, March 26, 2022

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You can see in the other Tweets posted by that account that he acknowledges that he knows Twitter has fake users prior to making a private offer. Although the fake users thing was never and is not a valid legal reason to void the contract. However, it's incredible to see that he didn't have the foresight not text about the fact that he knew this ahead of time.

Re: Jack Dorsey texts Elon Musk, March 26, 2022

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Is he talking about ActivityPub[1, 2] and the Fediverse[3]? Just look at Mastodon[4, 5] if you're looking for something like twitter without the centralization and the corporate greed. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ActivityPub [2] https://activitypub.rocks [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fediverse [4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mastodon_(software) [5] https://joinmastodon.org/servers

In this particular exchange, he is probably talking about BlueSky: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluesky_(protocol)

Re: Jack Dorsey texts Elon Musk, March 26, 2022

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You are both right and wrong. Bloomberg IS a tech company. But the journalists obviously don't mingle with that part.

> Bloomberg IS a tech company. This is like saying Microsoft is a charity - worst joke I heard in Sept 2022.

there is no such thing as a tech company except maybe biotech or other R&d based businesses.

Re: Jack Dorsey texts Elon Musk, March 26, 2022

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It’s pretty hard for even CEOs to control direction sometimes especially in big companies. A company is like a cthonic beast with many writhing tentacles that is in fact composed of thousands of cats. A black mass of cats, writhing, seeking, crawling toward anything that will increase its share price or get a cat promoted…

A CEO is just an employee, paid by the shareholders to do the job shareholders want him to do. Usually, the job is "get us rich". The CEO can do a lot of things regarding the company direction, but it has to match the shareholders goals. Generally, if it doesn't make profit short term or long term, it is unacceptable, and here, Jack Dorsey essentially wants to kill Twitter as a company, so of course he can't do that.…

A CEO is not “just an employee”, even when they are not a founder. You don’t get to accept that much power and that much money and then pass off any responsibility because you have someone to answer to.

Like really, if we accept that proposition how would society function? Youd have people in charge of tens to hundreds of thousands of peoples daily lives and output who just pass the buck on any issues because they got orders? Is that in anyway functionality different from a monarchy?

Re: Jack Dorsey texts Elon Musk, March 26, 2022

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post #147

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A CEO is just an employee, paid by the shareholders to do the job shareholders want him to do. Usually, the job is "get us rich". The CEO can do a lot of things regarding the company direction, but it has to match the shareholders goals. Generally, if it doesn't make profit short term or long term, it is unacceptable, and here, Jack Dorsey essentially wants to kill Twitter as a company, so of course he can't do that.…

Founder and CEO are different. If you are an external CEO dropped into a company your allegiances might align more with shareholders/board. Dorsey situation different.

Board members have a legal duty to act in the best interest of the shareholders (except for B-corps). If he wrote an email that said "I know it will make us less or no money, but we should turn Twitter into a decentralized protocol," and then the share price dropped, shareholders could sue him.

Re: Jack Dorsey texts Elon Musk, March 26, 2022

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I had not heard of Pleroma before, it looks nicely lightweight: https://pleroma.social

Checked out a random 'featured instance', first post is an image with "DOES IT FEEL LIKE THE ENTIRE WORLD FELL APART WHEN TRUMP LEFT?" in gigantic letters. Why do I get the feeling this is where everyone who got banned from twitter goes to hang out... It's like leaving Reddit for Voat, you'll just end up in the midst of the worst fringe groups because they can't exist on the main platform where normal people are.

For some cultural context:

If I had to sum up Pleroma's core audiences, it's right wing anime posters, Japanese instances that are 2ch-esque and don't really leave their language bubble, privacy and selfhosting folks, terfs, people who like sharing Ukraine war footage and discussing war in general, and pornposters

If I had to sum up Mastodon's core audiences, it's twitter-hating antifascists, European techies, post tumblr fetish sites, lgbt folks, Japanese instances that are 2ch-esque and don't really leave their language bubble, and pornposters

There's a lot of more random folks sprinkled throughout both, but these are definitely the most prevalent communities you'll run into just scrolling the network feeds.

Re: Jack Dorsey texts Elon Musk, March 26, 2022

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Can you be more specific? You're talking about a guy who was able to make a company that returned a booster 14 times back to Earth. Physicists and engineers that tried before him couldn't make it. Not even John Carmack could. How come Musk is so stupid if he's done it when others couldn't? (yes I know he's not the engineer turning the bolts on the rocket. There's incredible value in good management and leadership, th…

I think you didn't get the sarcasm in my comment...

Since so many people say this completely seriously, it was rather invisible to me. Sorry about that.

Re: Jack Dorsey texts Elon Musk, March 26, 2022

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It's so obvious that Musk was not really interested. The social balance was totally non-existent in this conversation. Musk's one line replies sound so generic. Seems like he wanted to keep the door open but Dorsey hadn't convinced him really yet. "I'd like to help if I can" is such a without obligation sentence. Then Jack replies with another well-designed text.
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