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Re: Facebook proven to negatively impact mental health

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I wonder how people continue to work at Facebook. I know they tend to have the highest salaries from the FAANG groups, but still. We, as engineers and builders, have the responsibility to think critically about how the things we are working on will be used.

Most SWEs I know at FAANG justify it by deliberately half assing the code (e.g. Fuchsia) to collect a big salary while also not being responsible for building evil things. It's a decent compromise imo.

Re: Facebook proven to negatively impact mental health

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>>I'd like to see similar study about the original gateway drug: "24-hour News Channels" Back in the early 80s I was living in LA and I'd grab some food on the way home from work and the "News" on an independent station. They had 3 half hour News show back to back. They started out with "Local News", then moved on to "National News", and finally "World News". At first it didn't seem much different than the big 3 Netw…

It’s been well studied. We know the ad suppprted news make us sad. Don’t watch the news. NPR and PBS are the best if you have to. I think someone could make a few billion running a positive happy news channel.

I also like Reuters, BBC and Al Jazeera, but I think the beeb is under too much scrutiny at home, but I still find them fair-ish?

Re: Facebook proven to negatively impact mental health

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I don't think that qualifies as "specious" because I'm not trying to deceive anyone. You missed the part where I stated TV isn't interactive. I tried to pose a question in good faith. Did I fail? I am interested in information. Using the term "specious" incorrectly, deliberately or accidentally, is a judgement of the basis of my argument, which is actually specious.

Strawman argument then? I'm simply disagreeing that cable TV has a similar kind of mental health impact referred to in the article, just because there are similarities in how they operate as economic/social entities. I have no reason to believe you are trying to deceive anyone and specious is a great word :)

> and specious is a great word :)

Lol, it is. :)

> Strawman argument then?

How about I rephrase, "Does 24-hour news have similar effects on viewers as this study shows social media has on kids, despite not being interactive?"

Yeah, I see your point. Apples and oranges. Still interested in that study.

Re: Facebook proven to negatively impact mental health

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I'm starting to suspect HN to have the same effect, the more I read HN the more unmotivated I feel. Unfavorable comparisons with "successful" people/projects who make it to the front page could be behind the same effects.

I'm the opposite. When I see people doing things better than me I get a surge of energy and motivation. And if I'm around people that are lazier I'll start being lazier. Not sure why that is. If you learn what motivates you you can use it to your advantage.

Re: Facebook proven to negatively impact mental health

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The follow-up comment is not low-effort and shallow, the original one was. Not sure why OP considers themselves to have been "baited" when the conversation IMHO has been greatly improved by them substantiating their criticism (which may have its merit).

Fair points! The comment I responded to was seeming to attribute those to OP's later comments, which would be unfair. The dismissal of the dismissal still comes across as low-effort and shallow.

I think their point was more that, after having obtained the preprint, they still weren't able to produce anything specific to the article, which demonstrates that their dismissal was low effort and unfair (and I think it's fair to call on them to admit that). The amount of effort required to dig into the methodology is high (and it's understandable if one doesn't want to spend their leisure time that way), but that's exactly why we can't go around spreading bullshit; it's so simple to do and takes so much effort to remediate, and often the damage is already done.

As always, it's better to go to another thread if a topic doesn't interest you, rather than disrespect people's time & energy by attacking the validity of the topic itself.

Re: Facebook proven to negatively impact mental health

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post #61

I took a long break (maybe 5 years or so) but I have recently started using both FB and Instagram and have been surprised at how positive my time has been on these platforms. On FB I have been finding interesting local groups and events (just moved to a new city) and on Instagram, I have been enjoying seeing updates from real friends. On the other hand I recently deleted Twitter from my phone. I love twitter for gett…

As an aside, I've heard these TikTok-likes called "swipeables", which I like.

Re: Facebook proven to negatively impact mental health

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post #13

I'd like to see similar study about the original gateway drug: "24-hour News Channels", which was followed by "24-hour Outrage-News Channels". Seems like we've been building toward this, the interactivity of the internet was the paradigm shift (to use a 90's term). EDIT: I realize it isn't news messing with youths' self-esteem (well, in some cases it is), but it is related in that the media is custom-made to drive en…

People always attack the latest tech. If it’s not video games it’s TV, if it’s not TV its radio, etc.

Wait til VR is evil

Re: Facebook proven to negatively impact mental health

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post #13

I'd like to see similar study about the original gateway drug: "24-hour News Channels", which was followed by "24-hour Outrage-News Channels". Seems like we've been building toward this, the interactivity of the internet was the paradigm shift (to use a 90's term). EDIT: I realize it isn't news messing with youths' self-esteem (well, in some cases it is), but it is related in that the media is custom-made to drive en…

In the 80's, my grandmother was in a nursing home and we would receiver her mail. She would receive stacks of mail -- generally Democrat leaning, but not always -- with long copy outrage about Social Security or Medicare being eviscerated (There is a bill on the House floor now!!!) We suspect she donated and got on a list somehow, but the mail was pure outrage, all the time, and I'm sure it goes back much further than this.

Re: Facebook proven to negatively impact mental health

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Up to now, I have vigorously shielded my toddler from marketing - as far as he knows, the TV occasionally shows holiday church services and election results, and "his" laptop shows fairly non-violent excerpts from BBC animal documentaries and bird-watching videos (he's taken to asking to watch by making the slurping sounds the desert rain frog in his favorite video makes as it's eating termites, then exclaiming "frog…

Start with advertising from the past and work your way forward? It looks lame now, but that stuff used to consistently work.

Talk about how media is produced. Every second is because someone made it so. None of it just happened.

Show them how it is done. How one can cut, edit and change the sound.

Ask who did it, for what reason, for which audience, to what end?

Equip them with the tools to question the things they see. Then they have the means to engage with marketing.

It’s a long road. There will be glitter and cheap plastic toys along the way.

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