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Re: Excuse me but why are you eating so many frogs

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> The writer George Jean Nathan claimed that before the 1920s, there existed only eight basic sandwich types This is 2022 - you can get old cookbooks from archive.org and check if Nathan was right. He wasn't. For example, "The up-to-date sandwich book : 400 ways to make a sandwich", by Eva Greene Fuller. Published in Chicago in 1909. https://archive.org/details/uptodatesandwich00full/page/n7/m... Or, a generation ear…

I think it is a joke on the "there are only 5 story types" blather you hear, every so often.

Yes, there are only two story types.

+ Someone goes on a journey.

+ A stranger comes to town.

Re: Excuse me but why are you eating so many frogs

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> For legal reasons, I’m not saying the people who write this stuff are literally Lucifer in human skin. It’s just that, if I wanted to maximize human misery, I would 100% try to convince people to spend more time doing things they hate When Neil Gaiman and Terry Pratchett wrote Good Omens thirty years ago they already hit upon this idea when Crowley, a demon and one of the main characters, tries to explain to his fe…

I also seem to remember that the story went on to say that Crowley at one point had been praised for his work in the Spanish Inquisition. That was the first he'd actually heard of it--humans had come up with it on their own--so he went and had a look, and then went and got blind drunk, because there are some things even demons would rather not think about. That kind of abrupt tonal slam, from comedy to horror, leavin…

>That was the first he'd actually heard of it--humans had come up with it on their own--so he went and had a look, and then went and got blind drunk, because there are some things even demons would rather not think about.

This seems like one of the things you might say to diss humans, but which doesn't actually make sense when you think about it. I don't believe for one moment that an actual demon, who does the kind of evil things we normally think of demons as doing, would find human evils shocking, let alone unthinkable. The whole point of being a demon is being and doing evil. If the demon can't comprehend some human evil, he's a failure as a demon.

It can at most make sense as a joke. It makes too little sense taken seriously to actually be horror.

Re: Excuse me but why are you eating so many frogs

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> my money is on that joke being written by Pratchett, it fits his kind of satire so perfectly Pretty sure it was written by Gaiman. I’m not finding the interview where he said this, but (if memory serves) Gaiman wrote that part of the story and had shelved it when Pratchett contacted him: — Do you have plans for that thing you sent me? — Not really, why? — Because I know what happens next. So either sell me the righ…

Unless I misunderstand you I think you're talking about the story (or perhaps that chapter) as a whole, and I'm talking about one particular passage in that story

> I'm talking about one particular passage in that story

Gaiman’s initial draft may have included more by the time they had the conversation, but the moment I remember from the interview was specifically about that conversation amongst the demons. It stuck with me because I found the idea funny and it’s what made me want to take a look at Good Omens.

Re: Excuse me but why are you eating so many frogs

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I made a summary of this article, because I found it a bit hard to read. I used GPT-3! Here's the summary: The author is saying that people who write about productivity are, in a way, the devil, because they convince people to do things they hate. The author is also saying that these people are not literally the devil, but are just as bad. The article argues that humans are not "naturally" lazy, and that the feeling…

I had no idea GPT-3 could be used for this, this accurately.

I suddenly feel like I need a browser extension to add such a summary to every article I read. Especially for less newsy, more long-form "conceptual" pieces where the author often doesn't make their actual real point until halfway through.

Re: Excuse me but why are you eating so many frogs

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post #220

I made a summary of this article, because I found it a bit hard to read. I used GPT-3! Here's the summary: The author is saying that people who write about productivity are, in a way, the devil, because they convince people to do things they hate. The author is also saying that these people are not literally the devil, but are just as bad. The article argues that humans are not "naturally" lazy, and that the feeling…

This is a shockingly coherent summary. The accuracy leaves a bit to be desired, but this is perfectly usable for distilling things you don't have time to fully evaluate.

I felt the same. I read the full article. Then, I returned to HN. I was surprised to see the top post was talking about GPT-3(!). Then, I read the GPT-3 summary. I think: "Hey, not bad! This could be a real tool for everyday use!"

Re: Excuse me but why are you eating so many frogs

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Negative - as mentioned in a couple other comments here, a different industry. Not a really large company either, like 1700 people, which is a good place as a private firm with a 60% margin on professional services and low overhead… I worked at Best Buy so I recognized the signs immediately. The expression was “man he/she really bleeds blue” and if you hung out with the managers after work - because they all hung out…

Note: The blue-shirt Best Buy experience is certainly cultish. The software developer side of Best Buy is not (unless you count wokeness and scrum-agile cultish).

I know there’s a big difference between corp and retail there. MN hq and all.

I did abuse the heck out of the BB IT at the time using flash drives and paint.exe admin tricks.

Re: Excuse me but why are you eating so many frogs

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This seems to be a major epidemic nowadays. I suspect that mechanistic, meaningless, purely mimetic pursuit of success has some pretty negative consequences on society. I suspect it might explain why so many people are interested in engaging in politics (or company politics) and zero-sum value extraction schemes instead of just adding value... They're not interested in the process at all, only in the outcome; financi…

A friend recently got what he thought was a great gig with an engineering firm - turned out it was more of a cult - rah rah sessions, after work bowling, softball - and they weren’t shy about shunning anybody who didn’t want all in right away. He got bullied and saw others bullied too - we figure it’s why they prefer to intern pipeline and hire and retain - a lot easier to brainwash when young. I mean it’s not a bad…

This was exactly my experience at Goldman Sachs. Sorry, I should be posting under a throw-away, but let's be real for a moment. That place was nothing but a cult. Yes, they make lots of money, but you need to sell your soul. I never worked in a place with so many sheep (non-believers but scared to speak-up) and assholes (believers, only because they profit / climb the corporate ladder) _at the same time_. Fortunately, I escaped after two years of that prison sentence. (The whole experience feels like Shawshank Redemption when I write about it now!) All the global investment banks where I have worked, Goldman had the fewest number of mid-career/senior hires. The intern/fresher pipeline was so deep. Now I understand why! They are so much easier to brain-wash.

Two stories stand out in my new hire training:

We had multiple "partners" (super senior, old-school MDs) tell us: "At Goldman, there is not publically available org chart." Fucking dead wrong. I raised my hand at each of those bullshit meetings and said, "I'm sorry, but this is incorrect. There is a website where you can view and search the org chart." (It was amazing -- no lie/joke.) Each PMD was so "surprised" to learn this. Not sure if real, or encouraging people to do face-to-face networking.

Second, they showed all these weird propaganda videos about how Goldman is closely tied with the US gov't, especially during World War 2. So weird, creepy, and out of date! Many senior partners leave Goldman and enter US politics. In American English, they call it "the revolving door" (between private industry and politics). Many democracies have this problem. But why celebrate it? Fuct! The whole thing felt so sleazy. Why is this important to non-US citizens? Many people looked bored and only read their mobile phones during these 90 minute(!) videos.

Re: Excuse me but why are you eating so many frogs

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A friend recently got what he thought was a great gig with an engineering firm - turned out it was more of a cult - rah rah sessions, after work bowling, softball - and they weren’t shy about shunning anybody who didn’t want all in right away. He got bullied and saw others bullied too - we figure it’s why they prefer to intern pipeline and hire and retain - a lot easier to brainwash when young. I mean it’s not a bad…

Having worked for many different tech companies, the concept of 'cult companies' seems like a trend. Though I can't say for sure if this is only affecting the tech industry or all industries. One of my ex-colleagues was hired straight out of university by a company and he did not take a single holiday in 4 years because his boss would always try to make him feel guilty or would imply that there would likely be negati…

Years ago, I had a very local Hongkong Chinese boss. My holidays were constantly being challenged as "Hey, can you move that holiday?" By dumb luck, I was listening to him one day talk to his boss about an upcoming wedding. "It is so important. I cannot miss that wedding." After that, every single holiday of mine was a wedding or funeral. And I heard him several times "defend" my holiday plans: "Oh, he cannot move that holiday -- wedding/funeral". Ri-don-kulous!

Re: Excuse me but why are you eating so many frogs

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Oracle?

Negative - as mentioned in a couple other comments here, a different industry. Not a really large company either, like 1700 people, which is a good place as a private firm with a 60% margin on professional services and low overhead… I worked at Best Buy so I recognized the signs immediately. The expression was “man he/she really bleeds blue” and if you hung out with the managers after work - because they all hung out…

Why is this downvoted? It is a good post.

Re: Excuse me but why are you eating so many frogs

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This seems to be a major epidemic nowadays. I suspect that mechanistic, meaningless, purely mimetic pursuit of success has some pretty negative consequences on society. I suspect it might explain why so many people are interested in engaging in politics (or company politics) and zero-sum value extraction schemes instead of just adding value... They're not interested in the process at all, only in the outcome; financi…

I agree about the negative consequences, but I'm not so sure about "nowadays". Haven't most people, throughout history, basically copied what other people did, followed the standard paths, etc., when it comes to trying to make a living? Haven't almost all of them been constrained by needing to do so, or fearing the unknown of not doing so?
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