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EV adoption in US is happening faster than predicted

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Re: EV adoption in US is happening faster than predicted

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Ah yes, the roof of my building where I'm on a middle floor. I'll start lobbying the board to install solar for just me to use. The problem with a lot of this is that the more "responsible" you're already living, the less reasonable the next "responsible" thing is to do. Going solar/off grid is only really possible if you live on a lot of land where you're the only resident, which is otherwise generally not recommend…

To reply to the GP’s point here … if you live in apartment you also aren’t stockpiling Jerry cans of gs, either.

You sure can keep a couple on your vehicle

Re: EV adoption in US is happening faster than predicted

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From the exact same quote, gas doesn't get pumped when the electricity goes out either: > Jasper's mayor, recommended residents and visitors to the park ensure their essential electric devices remain fully charged and that their vehicles have full tanks of gas — since gas stations rely on electricity. I think there's a huge logical gap that people have when it comes to EVs. The number of places with functioning gas p…

I can keep a couple jerry cans of gas around and toss them in the back of a ICE to get 150-200% of my range, or share with people in need. You cannot do this with an ev.

Sure thing, but keeping 10 gallons of gasoline is more than a couple of cans. And even then, so what? How many people need to do that, or will ever do that, except for off-roading or obscure jobs?

This is a legitimate use, but for a vanishingly small number of people. Back when LED lights were first being pushed, we saw a lot of the same resistance to a new product that was superior for nearly every single use case, except a vanishingly small number of use cases. EVs are really similar. In 10 years we will look back on the resistance to EVs and find it a bit silly and overly fearful.

Re: EV adoption in US is happening faster than predicted

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When gas cars were first around, people carried extra gas around with them. Eventually we built gas stations, but somehow cars still got a toehold even without those gas stations pre-existing. There are very very very few places without electricity in the world. Are there some places where emergency conditions make travel inconvenient or uncertain? Sure, but these rare situations are narrowing daily. If that was the…

> There are very very very few places without electricity in the world. In the first world. Billions live in places with no or unreliable electricity.

And that will change as renewable energy and cheap storage make micro grids economically feasible, where transmission with centralized power generation is too expensive.

In these places, EVs will be far superior to gas vehicles because they will require less infrastructure and the EVs supplement the micro grid are an asset for it.

Re: EV adoption in US is happening faster than predicted

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Well if you live in an apartment complex, I'm pretty sure storing large amounts of gasoline in your apartment isn't allowed either, so there's not a difference.

I keep a jerry fan on the back of my truck in the parking garage.

a what?

Re: EV adoption in US is happening faster than predicted

#235

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I never expected to run out of gas on an interstate. We aren't talking about a highway in the middle of nowhere Nevada, supposedly Kansas is populated with little towns everywhere (which seem to close their gas stations at night). And ya, when you are at some place like Crater Lake National Park, you don't really think too deeply about how the next gas station might be 100 miles out. If I was going into the Australia…

Running out of gas is an easy fix, go get a jerry can of petrol. What happens to an ev? Tow to the nearest charger?

Mobile charging is a possibility:

> Most gas-powered generators that your roadside assistance will come with provide 9.6 kilowatts and generate 240 volts. Inquire with your roadside assistance provider to know whether they offer a mobile charge. Often that not, they may be offering it.

Ya, they are coming with basically with a diesel generator that outputs 240 volts...which should give you 20 or so miles in 30 minutes?

Or towing (on a flatbed) to the nearest charger is an option if you can't bring power to the car.

Re: EV adoption in US is happening faster than predicted

#236

I love the idea of an EV, but I hate how unfriendly they are towards self-repair and I don't want my car connected to the internet. Also an EV has more battery capacity than my house so it'd be pretty hard to charge a car in the winter when I can barely keep my house batteries running my house.

I just completed a ~1600km drive back from visiting family. Half way through the outbound trip, in the middle of the mountains, I had to make a 300km detour due to a massive accident (two semi trucks head-on closed a mountain highway for more than a day). The detour was through a valley with no cellphone coverage for 150+km. At a rest stop I met a tesla driver in a panic. Without internet he was unable to figure out…

What exactly did he need internet for?

Re: EV adoption in US is happening faster than predicted

#237

I love EVs. That being said I wish someone would make an enclosed bicycle/motorcycle that costs less than $2000. Something like that which can go 30mph and had space for 2 days of groceries would be enough for me to eliminate my car all together. I'm cobbling something similar now with a Class 3 cargo ebike, but rain sucks =/ The idealist in me says that electric ebikes could eliminate most of Americas problems in on…

Rain isn't really a problem with the appropriate clothing. (Speaking as someone that rides year round for transportation in Wisconsin.) The only problem I've had is downpours can soak your shoes but I just have an extra pair of shoes at work and at home.

What are you wearing to keep your head from turning into a block of ice? We always end staying off the bike for the coldest months of the year.

Re: EV adoption in US is happening faster than predicted

#238

I love the idea of an EV, but I hate how unfriendly they are towards self-repair and I don't want my car connected to the internet. Also an EV has more battery capacity than my house so it'd be pretty hard to charge a car in the winter when I can barely keep my house batteries running my house.

I just completed a ~1600km drive back from visiting family. Half way through the outbound trip, in the middle of the mountains, I had to make a 300km detour due to a massive accident (two semi trucks head-on closed a mountain highway for more than a day). The detour was through a valley with no cellphone coverage for 150+km. At a rest stop I met a tesla driver in a panic. Without internet he was unable to figure out…

Europeans don't understand how sparse and unpopulated the United States is .

Even if they visit they visit the densely populated areas not realizing that most Americans regularly drive across areas where you may not see anyone for miles around. It's not that uncommon an occurrence. Most Americans will do something like this a few times a year. Many do it daily...

Canadians too

Re: EV adoption in US is happening faster than predicted

#239

I love the idea of an EV, but I hate how unfriendly they are towards self-repair and I don't want my car connected to the internet. Also an EV has more battery capacity than my house so it'd be pretty hard to charge a car in the winter when I can barely keep my house batteries running my house.

I just completed a ~1600km drive back from visiting family. Half way through the outbound trip, in the middle of the mountains, I had to make a 300km detour due to a massive accident (two semi trucks head-on closed a mountain highway for more than a day). The detour was through a valley with no cellphone coverage for 150+km. At a rest stop I met a tesla driver in a panic. Without internet he was unable to figure out…

> There are some parts of this planet where it it very hard to envision mass EV adoption.

A lot of EV's are already at 500km range. Within this decade we should see 1000km range. Add some charging infrastructure and we are gold. Just look at the chargers Tesla has built in California (and there is still a lot of potential to improve).

Re: EV adoption in US is happening faster than predicted

#240

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The next time I see a farmer I'll pass along that it is "fine" that he continue growing the food people eat. He will appreciate having permission so to do.

I don't think you understand what I was saying "fine" too. But people need to pay for the damage they inflict on the world. Nobody is so "special" or snowflake that they get exempted. Farmers are adults, they can be treated like any other adult in our society.

The cost will just be passed to you anyway.
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