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Then you fall outside the probably. The overwhelming majority of people have a single address their entire life
I guess those people only have one job their whole lives, too, and never lived before Gmail became popular.
Your online identity is owned by your email provider (2019)
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Re: Your online identity is owned by your email provider (2019)
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Can you use fast mail with any email service that supports IMAP or is it like Proton Mail where you have to use their app to check your emails?
FastMail offers seneric JMAP, IMAP, and SMTP access with app-specific passwords.
That's another thing where Proton makes me use their app, which can be annoying.
Re: Your online identity is owned by your email provider (2019)
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Nah. Just have people generate their own keys. Then distribute a token to everyone, like registering to vote or NYC ID. Finally, have an official mixer like tornado cash that only works with these tokens. Ring signatures baby ! Now you distribute UBI, allow voting etc. And it is all pseudonymous. That’s what we are building out at Intercoin.org/applications btw :)
>allow voting Voting should always have a paper trail. And there's also the problem of allowing the technologically illiterate/aversive to vote.
A sister comment just asked what we would do about selling votes. Well, if you can use the piece of paper to prove how you voted, I guess you “can sell your votes”
Re: Your online identity is owned by your email provider (2019)
#235Earlier quoted context omitted.
Nah. Just have people generate their own keys. Then distribute a token to everyone, like registering to vote or NYC ID. Finally, have an official mixer like tornado cash that only works with these tokens. Ring signatures baby ! Now you distribute UBI, allow voting etc. And it is all pseudonymous. That’s what we are building out at Intercoin.org/applications btw :)
Sounds interesting but can you elaborate on the social benefits, challenges and potential downfalls of such an approach?
Re: Your online identity is owned by your email provider (2019)
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that's a good question. would i rather have an entity that i have no power against (google) or only my own error? the outcome is the same, i had x, now i don't. personally, i'd prefer being responsible, but it is a by a thin margin. that being said, key management has and will continue to get easier. so over time, the risk of key loss should diminish.
> Personally, I'd prefer being responsible, but it is a by a thin margin. I'd wager that's not the case for 90% of users choosing the email provider they trust the most, both in terms of what they expect the risks are, and what they actually risk in practice. > key management has and will continue to get easier You're talking about the blockchain space where it was not even the state of the art when it started. Key m…
one key management wallet i like is https://www.argent.xyz/
maybe this is rudimentary by traditional standards but this an advancement for wallet management.
the key feature is you can recover access to your assets even if you lose your keys through social recovery.
Re: Your online identity is owned by your email provider (2019)
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Doesn't that depend on my ISP running basically an open relay, if I'm trying to mail from me@hn.com and they only provide me@isp.net? Always figured they'd just dump the request with a "i don't know you".
No because relays can be closed, and usually are. Your ISP's SMTP server requires authentication, using the credentials they gave you, and almost certainly uses TLS also. Your me@isp.net address (or perhaps the me part of it) is used for authenticating, along with the password. It will likely be used as your envelope address when sending; the SMTP command will be MAIL from: me@isp.net, though there could be flexibili…
Ah yes, doh.
Re: Your online identity is owned by your email provider (2019)
#238After the NYT article [0] I purchased (rented) my own domain, created a cloudflare account and started using their email routing to forward all the email to my gmail address. I also configured gmail to allow me to send emails from the new email address. As I have a small child and use a lot the telemedicine services I do have a fear that I will be blocked soon. A drawback to this is that cloudflare does not allow you…
Not affiliated with them, just a happy user myself.
Re: Your online identity is owned by your email provider (2019)
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I agree and it's what I do. But I think there is one valid counter argument. If you have to pay for something, then there is always additional potential for loss of access that doesn't exist with free services. That potential is perhaps even greater with domain registrars and all the other service providers involved in email services (registrar, domain host, email provider). Any issue with any of these services could…
Yes, this is a real issue. Some people straight keep renewal schedules in their calendar like they do for anniversaries and tax filing deadlines. Funnily enough, registering domains at specific occasions makes it easier to remember to check the status (credit card registration etc) At the core of it, I’m not sure it’s that different from anything you actually “own”. Someone “owning” a house would still probably get i…
I do too, but will I still be using that same calendar in 6 or 7 years when the renewal comes up? The calendar is linked to some of the same subscriptions.
Re: Your online identity is owned by your email provider (2019)
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Everyone deserves an e-mail that can't be taken away from them without a court order.
And a phone number, and a bank account/CC number (so that you won't get escalatingly locked out of stuff because your direct debits fail. Don't ever use N26, kids.)