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Post by kennend3 »

spywaregorilla wrote: post #219
samatman wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They can, in fact, safely return the rabbit to the stew pot. They're food. Rabbits. People eat them. It's not better for the rabbit to be turned loose to be mauled to death by a housecat or eaten by a coyote. A shelter is going to euthanize, wasting good meat. This is squeamishness masquerading as morality.

Are dogs food?

I've had dogs as pets for decades. I don't see why people cant eat them if they want to. I wouldn't eat my dog because of emotional attachments, but that doesn't mean that others who don't have emotional ties cant eat them.

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Post by soperj »

Jedd wrote: post #177
d_rc wrote: post #84

Another story from a fellow hacker with a backyard goat - It actually starts in a very subtle way. Goats have different tastes and moods, and it's not like they eat everything right away unless the density of a goat per backyard m2 is too high. I started giving mine some free "roaming" time with the chickens every day before the sunset. It looked very innocent - first few days she ate just some weeds, nettle and some…

Do you mean the goat is eating the tomato fruit, or the tomato leaves? The latter are toxic to (AIUI) all monogastrics, same as potatoes and other Solanum family plants - you may want to reign that behaviour in, assuming the animals are still alive.

Goats are ruminants.

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Post by spywaregorilla »

samatman wrote: post #227
spywaregorilla wrote: post #219

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are dogs food?

Are pigs food to Muslims? Is there a culture where eating rabbit is taboo?

You said

> They're food. Rabbits. People eat them.

Well people eat dogs and pigs so then by the same logic they are food.

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Post by spywaregorilla »

kennend3 wrote: post #231
spywaregorilla wrote: post #219

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are dogs food?

I've had dogs as pets for decades. I don't see why people cant eat them if they want to. I wouldn't eat my dog because of emotional attachments, but that doesn't mean that others who don't have emotional ties cant eat them.

But perhaps you can see why someone would be upset if you needed to pass your dog to someone else's care; and they ate them.

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Post by dnadler »

samatman wrote: post #201
dnadler wrote: post #178

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The situation implies that the person selling the rabbits as pets would attempt to rehome them or care for them as pets. There's a difference between being technically correct, and being moral. While the language used is technically correct for the situation, omitting the information about where the rabbits end up is immoral. Clearly OP understands that if the whole truth was told, they wouldn't be getting a free sou…

Is it dishonest to buy a rabbit and not mention that you're planning to eat/breed/keep it as a pet? No of course not, it's none of the seller's business. If they say "hey we're vegan please don't eat our rabbits" that's a different matter, it would be at the very least polite to respect those wishes. Why on Earth would returning a rabbit to a farm where they eat them be any different? In this case the possibility is…

I think the bit about it being a "farm where they eat them" is the key point.

If the person returning it knows that, then sure. The OP implied pretty heavily that they don't know the ultimate fate of the rabbits.

As far as these people know its "A farm where they sell breed and sell rabbits as pets", not a farm that raises them for meat.

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Post by wszfahwbwbaha »

mingusrude wrote: post #55

My sister has a small farm and in addition to cows and horses she also has rabbits. Every spring, parents show up to buy a rabbit to have at home. When the deal is done my sister takes the parents aside and tell them that if they plan or feel by the end of the summer that they want to let the rabbit loose, they can return it for free. What she does not tell is that our brother-in-law is a chef and happily makes rabbi…

Your sister is a bad person

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Post by wszfahwbwbaha »

samatman wrote: post #139
KingMob wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If there was ever a win-win situation, this is it. Say what? She lies via omission to the parents, forcing them to make an uninformed choice. Instead of letting a rabbit loose in the wild, they might have sought another home for it, because they didn't want it to die. Your sister's lies mislead them into thinking they can safely return the rabbit.

They can, in fact, safely return the rabbit to the stew pot. They're food. Rabbits. People eat them. It's not better for the rabbit to be turned loose to be mauled to death by a housecat or eaten by a coyote. A shelter is going to euthanize, wasting good meat. This is squeamishness masquerading as morality.

What is with all your edgelord stuff with rabbits. You need to work out some of your issues

Re: Goat Rental – Hire Goats

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Post by wszfahwbwbaha »

dunefox wrote: post #130
mingusrude wrote: post #55

My sister has a small farm and in addition to cows and horses she also has rabbits. Every spring, parents show up to buy a rabbit to have at home. When the deal is done my sister takes the parents aside and tell them that if they plan or feel by the end of the summer that they want to let the rabbit loose, they can return it for free. What she does not tell is that our brother-in-law is a chef and happily makes rabbi…

Yeah, sounds like a win-win situation alright - the pet rabbit gets slaughtered, the children and parents are lied to. Your sister sounds like a great person.

It's seriously skeezy. One of those comments that makes me have less faith in humanity.

Re: Goat Rental – Hire Goats

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Post by wszfahwbwbaha »

lostlogin wrote: post #94
KingMob wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If there was ever a win-win situation, this is it. Say what? She lies via omission to the parents, forcing them to make an uninformed choice. Instead of letting a rabbit loose in the wild, they might have sought another home for it, because they didn't want it to die. Your sister's lies mislead them into thinking they can safely return the rabbit.

Rabbits are incredibly destructive of many environments. Have a look at New Zealand.

Then don't breed them, sell them as pets, then lie to parents and kill and eat them. Seems like an easy solution..
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