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Re: Review of /e/ – Android-based alternative for mobile phones

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"Picasso had a saying. He said, 'Good artists copy; great artists steal', and we have, you know, always been shameless about stealing great ideas." -- Steve Jobs, in Triumph of the Nerds (1996 documentary) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6jeZ7m0ycw

This isn't Steve Jobs.

Seriously? Here's the transcript straight from PBS, the distributor of the documentary:

https://www.pbs.org/nerds/part3.html

Re: Review of /e/ – Android-based alternative for mobile phones

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How are you using Google services on LineageOS now? Do you have microG preinstalled (LineageOS for microG)[1], did you install GApps, or are you not using Google services at all? /e/ has microG installed, just like LineageOS for microG. Compared to the proprietary Google Play Services in GApps, microG is a FOSS library that allows apps to access Google services. microG lets you selectively enable/disable push notific…

since you seem knowledgeable.. I noticed when apps are installed on Chinese androids they generally magically work just fine. I remember reading that at install time the app detects if it's on a western or Chinese phone and it reconfigures itself accordingly (this was with Signal) The issues appear when you install on a western phone and disable Google play services and the apps keep trying to access them For instanc…

It depends on how the developer chooses to implement the notifications and on how the app is distributed. The Play Store distribution of Signal uses Firebase Cloud Messaging (via Google Play Services or microG) and falls back to WebSockets if FCM is unavailable. The website distribution[1] of Signal only uses WebSockets. I don't think Signal tries to detect whether the phone is Chinese, only whether FCM is available.

Since Google services (including FCM) are blocked in China, apps that serve both Chinese and non-Chinese users usually find some way to support both FCM and the Chinese equivalents. For example, Airbnb serves users both inside and outside of China, so they distribute two builds of their app. The Play Store distribution of Airbnb relies solely on FCM for push notifications. The Chinese distribution of Airbnb,[2] according to an App Manager[3] tracker scan, bundles push notification libraries from JPush,[4] Xiaomi, Huawei, and Vivo.

Developers can choose to have one app distribution that support all of these services, or they can release separate builds that each handle some of these services. This varies from app to app.

[1] https://signal.org/android/apk/

[2] Visit https://www.airbnb.cn on an Android phone and the download banner appears at the bottom.

[3] https://github.com/MuntashirAkon/AppManager

[4] https://www.jiguang.cn/en/push

Re: Review of /e/ – Android-based alternative for mobile phones

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From /e/'s website: > Our mission: make technology that respects user privacy accessible to everyone. https://e.foundation/about-e/ I don't think it's unreasonable to suggest that /e/ should rebrand itself, if the new name makes /e/ more accessible to potential users who are searching for it. Good marketing doesn't necessarily mean "total domination", but it can help /e/ fulfill its mission by extending its reach.

Being accessible has nothing to do with being popular. > I don't think it's unreasonable to suggest that /e/ should rebrand itself Unreasonable, it is not. It is just vapid bike shedding. It is the kind of discussion topic that I would expect from corporate MBA types and useless hacks who never built anything in their lives, not something worthy of so many comments here.

> Being accessible has nothing to do with being popular.

I didn't say that. Something that is accessible is "easy to find or reach": https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/learner-engli...

/e/ wants to make its technology easy for others to find and use, and a rebrand can help them do that.

Re: Review of /e/ – Android-based alternative for mobile phones

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Is there any Android alternative that works with Android Auto? One of the primary uses of my phone is plugging into my car to play music and navigate.

Lineage works perfectly fine for me with Android Auto

It will work if you install a Google Apps package, but not otherwise.

Re: Review of /e/ – Android-based alternative for mobile phones

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Every time this OS is linked on HN half the comments are about pronunciation. That’s probably not a good thing when it comes to marketing..

I agree. It's good that it's distinct, but it's very hard to pronounce or google.

Not to mention include in filenames.

Re: Review of /e/ – Android-based alternative for mobile phones

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I feel like I wouldn't use this based on the name alone. How do I say it? forward slash ee forward slash? I don't understand why anyone would think it was a good idea to name it this!

When I see slash letter slash I think "a board on 4chan". In this case, it happens to be a pornographic board. Bad name all around.

Hey, at least it isn't a political board or something. That would be much worse.
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