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Re: Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

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In East Asia, novelty or "cuteness" of a product, i.e. the look of things, is mostly what counts. That's how East Asian makers try to stay ahead of the competition, because actual innovation that goes beyond the surface (no pun intended) is hard and not actually encouraged in societies with a confucian view of the workplace.

Source?

Living many years in Japan and China and really understanding the culture?

Re: Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

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post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Only because Apple's track record so far is a lot better than Asus' or other OEMs in terms of not adding novelty or gadget-y features to their pro products.

No, but they did take away lots of important features from their pro products purely for novelty. Things like ports, for instance.

Yep, and they added them back in and the current M1 MacBook Pros are their best yet.

Re: Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

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I've been wanting a Microsoft Courier since they first did that concept video - I'm getting one of these Asus ones even if it is very early days. This Asus has a better setup than the X1 fold, I've saved up the cash, I want one.

The current ultimate OneNote device!

Re: Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

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God help your soul if you need to deal with an ASUS hardware RMA. They are easily the worst PC hardware manufacturer of all, and they sell clearly damaged and broken parts as "refurb." They are terrible.

They are shit in RMA but as is every other company, most service centres are outsourced. I remember I just need a droid to remove the cmos battery from my zenbook to fix some weird power on race condition that prevented the whole thing from switching on - I didn’t have the silly screwdrivers - yet they wanted to rma it for two weeks - had to literally scream down the shop unrefined - losing face - until they relented…

Not every other company. Apple - to name one - are often simply excellent at this because they understand the power of customer satisfaction. There are numerous stories of apple replacing failed hardware with equivalent, newer models - phones and laptops alike.

There are plenty of legitimate criticisms one can make of Apple but customer satisfaction under warranty is not one of them.

Re: Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

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I'm a programmer that spends a lot of time programming on my laptop without an extra screen. I use 15" laptops exclusively because it has a decent balance between screen size and portability. But when coding (and a lot of coding is done over Zoom where folks with bigger screens are sharing their desktops) every little bit of real-estate counts. So the idea of having a 17" in a more portable form factor, and weight is very intriguing. Like its crazy to think a 17" laptop can be under 4 lbs (3.3 lbs to be exact).

Re: Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

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I found this sentence to be hilarious: > The color-accurate 2.5K slim-bezel NanoEdge Dolby Vision screen is also PANTONE® Validated with TÜV Rheinland-certified low blue-light levels. It's the second sentence on the page, prominently at the top. Do they expect the average consumer knows what any of that means? There's more made up marketing BS there than English.

They're counting on their target market to feel superior to others by knowing (or pretending to know) and thus being more likely purchase.

These statements also give purchasers psychological cover for spending an exorbitant amount. This is not some overpriced pedestrian device.

Re: Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

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I really didn't want to do this, but I bit the bullet and bought M1 MacBook Pro. Oh, having previously worked on XPS 15, this laptop is like next level in terms of pretty much everything. I feel like manufacturers putting Intel or (to an extent) AMD processor in any laptop just waste their time. Sure there will be people who will buy it (who don't know about M1/M2), but it's like buying a legacy technology for premiu…

You're comparing an (I'm guessing) few years old xps that needed replacing, to a last year's premium quality/pricing laptop. I know Intel is still behind on efficiency, but you should try a 12th gen with p/e cores before you write the whole thing off as legacy.

Also I'm not sure apple wants to license anything - they're doing quite well keeping the design to themselves.

Re: Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

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post #10

Fold or not, what I want for a laptop is: A tablet with a matte screen. That can run Linux. So I can put it on a stand and a keyboard in front of it. That would be the ultimate travel setup! Working in cafes without having to look down all the time. Does something like this exist?

Just get a Thinkpad. They have all the features you want. They're not going to be as thing and light, but their keyboards are better than anything out there. The touchpad is iffy, but if you're using Linux (I use it too), your touchpad experience is going to be subpar anyway.

This is a misunderstaning. A Thinkpad does not let me take off the keyboard.

That's why I want a tablet and a keyboard.

So I can put the tablet on a stand and the keyboard in front of it.

Re: Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

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I found this sentence to be hilarious: > The color-accurate 2.5K slim-bezel NanoEdge Dolby Vision screen is also PANTONE® Validated with TÜV Rheinland-certified low blue-light levels. It's the second sentence on the page, prominently at the top. Do they expect the average consumer knows what any of that means? There's more made up marketing BS there than English.

Unfortunately this proprietary marketing-speak BS makes it easy to sell to creative professionals and those who care about color, and does signal somewhat well-defined properties.

DolbyVision works well if you have the proprietary stack (it's the format newer iPhones shoot HDR videos in -- and even DaVinci Resolve didn't support it last I checked), and PANTONE does reasonably solve the important problem of color matching.

Re: Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

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post #41

I'd be really excited if they offer this as part of their ZenScreen portable monitor range. They seem to be currently mostly 1080p but a folding 17" or larger HiDPI screen for an existing laptop would be brilliant. I generally like smaller laptops like the MacBook Air or XPS 13. I could see me using a tri-fold ZenScreen in hotel room and then just the laptop on a plane/train tray table. https://www.asus.com/Displays-…

> smaller laptops like the Macbook Air

iPad Pro 12.9” as external second hidpi/retina monitor for Macbook is remarkable in three modes

- USB-C to USB-C for all day powered zero latency extended desktop

- WiFi for cable free extended desktop

- keyboard mouse sharing (by pushing your Macbook cursor against the side of your laptop screen by the iPad, till it “pops” onto the iPad) for seamlessly running Macbook apps and iPad apps side by side using your main keyboard/mouse, able to not just cut and paste but drag and drop (!!!) between the two devices and OSes.

And then just the iPad Pro with Magic Keyboard (and its trackpad) on the plane/train tray table (hinge design sets the screen in from the hinge, allowing use in shallower depths like the tray tables).

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