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Re: The Best iPhone

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Post by kalleboo »

WrtCdEvrydy wrote: post #10

Can we just have a conversation about how my Pixel 4a's camera at 4K gets smoked by an iPhone SE/iPhone 5 taking video at 1080p... I'm not an iphone guy but I do keep one in my pocket for taking video.

When YouTubers use an Android camera to record some short clip on-the-go, it's always so obvious - it usually has that obvious "jello-vision" rolling shutter feel that old digital cameras had. Meanwhile it took me ages to realize that Doug DeMuro uses an iPhone for like half of his shots (only noticed due to the characteristic green lens reflections)

Re: The Best iPhone

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Post by allset_ »

fomine3 wrote: post #151
notRobot wrote: post #2

I would pay a decent chunk of money for an iPhone SE clone that runs Android. I'm so tired of big phones. I can't do this anymore. Past discussions: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31411191 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30405011

Let's see today appeared Zenfone 9, it loosks good. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32271660

5.9in is not small.

Re: The Best iPhone

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Post by Swizec »

Bud wrote: post #212
Swizec wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I love my 13 mini and it’s easily my favorite iPhone since the 5. The only thing missing is the zoom. Wish they replaced the useless 0.5x lens with the 2x. Everything else about this phone is perfect

The 0.5x is far more useful than the 2x. Most of the things one would do with the 2x can be had by just walking a bit closer to the subject. Or by just shooting at 1x and cropping, since there's resolution to spare. But the 0.5x very frequently enables indoor shots that are impossible to get otherwise. Because you can't back up for a wider view if you're next to a wall. Apple chose well.

> Most of the things one would do with the 2x can be had by just walking a bit closer to the subject

Except for the main reason I ever used it: depth of field and more natural proportions.

Digital zoom can’t do that and no portrait mode is not the same.

On my old phone I would often switch to 2x and walk away from the subject to get a better photo.

Here’s a good example of how faces change when shot with different focal lengths: https://imgur.io/gallery/ZKTWi

Re: The Best iPhone

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Post by stripline »

q7xvh97o2pDhNrh wrote: post #193
rpgbr wrote: post #23

I knew I wasn't the only one fond of small, cheap-but-great phones! :) Btw, this is my first post in English. I cover tech here in Brazil for +10 years and run a +9 years old independent, self-sustainable publication written in Portuguese. Now, I decided to give it a shot in another language, despite still feeling uncomfortable with my English. (I hope I haven't misspelled anything!) If you enjoyed this brief iPhone…

Your writing is excellent. The grammar is almost flawless (see below). Beyond that, I enjoyed your writing style as well -- strong opening, thoughtful variations in paragraph length and sentence structure, and generally concise and focused. If you are interested in some small feedback to improve a little more: the final three sentences in the article were the only ones where I saw something that could be improved. >…

Great reply. I agree that the writing in the post is excellent. While we're giving constructive feedback I'd add this sentence:

> I cover tech here in Brazil for +10 years and run a +9 years old independent,

It should be past tense "I've covered", and in English we do everything backwards so 10+ and 9+ are more natural. So I'd change that to:

I've covered tech here in Brazil for 10+ years and run a 9+ years old independent,

Re: The Best iPhone

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Post by BbzzbB »

MAGZine wrote: post #119
BbzzbB wrote: post #100

Am I cheap, poor, frugal or outdated to find it mildly funny US$400-450+tx are considered cheap phones nowadays? Not that I mind as I'm able to find good value (in my opinion and for my needs) in second-hand markets for electronics (couldn't be more satisfied with my $100 Pixel 3a and aging T430s laptop), I just find it impressive how much price references have shifted over time as flagship phones ran from $400-500 w…

but... your pixel was more than $100 new. the phone you use does not normally fit into the category you describe. the only part that makes it work is the "second hand," bit. cheap/expensive is relative, and $400 is cheap for a phone (for north american audiences). fwiw, i find even pixel phones to be sort of slow after a couple years into software updates, mostly between multitasking/app switching. so I think that th…

I wasn't trying to compare second-hand price vs new, I just added that since I didn't want to come off as complaining when I'm not really concerned by the cost of new phones (or electronics for that matter), it was just an observation. If anything, I'm thankful for consumerism enabling me to buy from an ample supply of quality second-hand electronics.

>cheap/expensive is relative

I guess that's kind of my point if there was one. Today's cheap smartphones are at the price of flagship phones from <10 years ago. I find it noticeable how far goalposts have moved when it comes to what cheap (let alone expensive) means for smartphones. Which is just a remark and not a criticism, consumers command markets as it should be and I'm more than aware my habits are not extrapolatable.

Re: The Best iPhone

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Post by BurningFrog »

BbzzbB wrote: post #100

Am I cheap, poor, frugal or outdated to find it mildly funny US$400-450+tx are considered cheap phones nowadays? Not that I mind as I'm able to find good value (in my opinion and for my needs) in second-hand markets for electronics (couldn't be more satisfied with my $100 Pixel 3a and aging T430s laptop), I just find it impressive how much price references have shifted over time as flagship phones ran from $400-500 w…

My phone is the thing I use most out of all things I have.

So spending a few extra cent per hour of usage to get a nicer one is very easy to justify.

Re: The Best iPhone

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Post by enlyth »

eyelidlessness wrote: post #135
BbzzbB wrote: post #100

Am I cheap, poor, frugal or outdated to find it mildly funny US$400-450+tx are considered cheap phones nowadays? Not that I mind as I'm able to find good value (in my opinion and for my needs) in second-hand markets for electronics (couldn't be more satisfied with my $100 Pixel 3a and aging T430s laptop), I just find it impressive how much price references have shifted over time as flagship phones ran from $400-500 w…

> Am I cheap, poor, frugal or outdated to find it mildly funny US$400-450+tx are considered cheap phones nowadays? I can’t speak to whether you’re any of those, but I can say this. Anyone spending significantly more than that (I’m included in this category) is either: - Buying it for the quality of its camera (me again, not that I’m an especially avid photographer; I almost exclusively take pics of my pup) - Some mix…

I have a rule that I spend the most money on things I use the most.

Mattresses, phones, computers, desks, chairs, etc. Is a thousand dollars for a phone a lot? Well, depends on how you look at it. I use it for more than an hour a day, every day, so a 1000 dollars over two years for a device like that doesn't seem insane to me. Comes out to about a $1.40 a day.

Re: The Best iPhone

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Post by allset_ »

akvadrako wrote: post #98
notRobot wrote: post #2

I would pay a decent chunk of money for an iPhone SE clone that runs Android. I'm so tired of big phones. I can't do this anymore. Past discussions: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31411191 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30405011

The Pixel 4a is probably your best bet; that's what I use. Still getting updates and it's quite decent, though it's a couple years old now.

Love the size and weight of my Pixel 4a. I broke the screen on mine a few weeks back, and paid over half the original price of the phone to have it repaired.

Re: The Best iPhone

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Post by chadash »

BbzzbB wrote: post #100

Am I cheap, poor, frugal or outdated to find it mildly funny US$400-450+tx are considered cheap phones nowadays? Not that I mind as I'm able to find good value (in my opinion and for my needs) in second-hand markets for electronics (couldn't be more satisfied with my $100 Pixel 3a and aging T430s laptop), I just find it impressive how much price references have shifted over time as flagship phones ran from $400-500 w…

I mean it's all relative, but yeah, $429 starting price for a phone coming from a company that is known to support their products for a minimum of 5 years is really not bad. Especially since these phones hold their value far better than any other brand on the market. I bought an iphone SE (2nd gen) in 2020 for $450 and sold it for $230 in 2022, so it worked out to about $110/year. It was a fantastic phone, but I upgraded to a 13 mini because my work offered to pay for the phone. I used to have a Moto E, which I think most people would consider a "cheap" phone and a) it wasn't a great phone b) i had no desire to keep it more than 2 years and c) by the time i was done using it, it's secondary market value was low enough that i didn't bother selling it.
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