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Meta is raising the price of the Quest 2 to 400 USD

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Re: Meta is raising the price of the Quest 2 to 400 USD

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Post by johndough »

nickthegreek wrote: post #222
onepremise wrote: post #217

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not to mention they can now Id you based off your retina scan. They can also profile your house and products you use in your house. Facebook is reckless with data. Just read up on the Cambridge Analytica scandal. They were even sharing facebook messenger conversations with third party data consumers.

The quest 2 does not have an inward facing camera pointing at your iris.

The quest 3 might have eye tracking and face tracking.

"One of the things I’m really excited about for future versions is getting eye tracking and face tracking in" - Mark Zuckerberg https://uploadvr.com/zuckerberg-quest-3-4-eye-face-tracking/

Here is their tech demo for full eye and face tracking for virtual avatars:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86-tHA8F-zU

Re: Meta is raising the price of the Quest 2 to 400 USD

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Post by AnIdiotOnTheNet »

nickthegreek wrote: post #224
AnIdiotOnTheNet wrote: post #203

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For me it isn't even so much about the privacy invasion or having to have a Facebook account, it's being locked into one store. PCVR doesn't have that problem.

You can play any of your steam vr games on the quest 2.

Sure, with some hackery. I'd rather pay for something that doesn't require me to work around it like that. Why pay for this in-headset computer if I'm not using it?

Re: Meta is raising the price of the Quest 2 to 400 USD

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Post by spywaregorilla »

Firmwarrior wrote: post #120
rjh29 wrote: post #104

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There are some techniques. Vignetting the borders of the screen when moving/turning seems to help for some people. I've noticed newer games increasingly have free movement as an option, or no teleport at all, so I think for a lot of people it is possible to get used to it if you play enough. Some percentage will never get used to it though, which sucks.

The VR enthusiast/dev community has gotten caught in a death spiral when it comes to simulation sickness.. They encourage each other to "get your VR legs" and play/demand/make nausea-inducing games, and it just chases away all the normal human beings who don't want to spend months gently training their bodies to become immune to it (FYI, the way it works is you play until you start to feel a hint of nausea, and stop…

I fought through boneworks, which is stick based movement and heavy physics climbing and falling and, worst of all, jumping. I got sick a bunch. I did get over it. But by the time I did it was just more and more apparent that it was a screen in front of my face. You can't both feel like you're there and have no nausea while jumping on a button press.

Re: Meta is raising the price of the Quest 2 to 400 USD

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Post by weberer »

whywhywhywhy wrote: post #68
trixie_ wrote: post #7

It's a strange move given Facebook changed their name to promote VR and the Quest is their flagship device. Also surprised that after mass producing this device for almost 2 years their manufacturing and supply chain costs aren't dialed in enough to maintain the current price. The message here is that VR is 'failing'. I hope it's not, but that's the message with this backwards move.

I can’t shake the feeling this is more the canary in the coal mine that by this time next year you’ll be paying more for PS5, Xbox, Switch iPhones etc even if the tech inside is exactly what’s on sale today.

Obviously, since inflation right now is hovering around 10%.

Re: Meta is raising the price of the Quest 2 to 400 USD

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Post by spywaregorilla »

balls187 wrote: post #32
joshlemer wrote: post #14

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There's honestly just hardly even any games on it at all. And all of the games are really expensive. I like how on the Nintendo Switch there are big budget games but also thousands of games for like $2

Have you tried wireless streaming VR games from a PC?

There's not much of note on steam either. It's pretty much the same games in the top 10 every month.

Re: Meta is raising the price of the Quest 2 to 400 USD

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Post by weego »

onepremise wrote: post #217
parkingrift wrote: post #201

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>I also made a fake, empty Facebook account to use the Oculus store, so I don't feel like it's a privacy invasion. You're kidding yourself with that. You gave Facebook literal eyes into your home through an internet connected device. If you don't think Facebook know who you are I have some coins I'd like to sell you.

Not to mention they can now Id you based off your retina scan. They can also profile your house and products you use in your house. Facebook is reckless with data. Just read up on the Cambridge Analytica scandal. They were even sharing facebook messenger conversations with third party data consumers.

they can now Id you based off your retina scan

There's enough wrong with FB/Meta to not need to go into conspiracies

Re: Meta is raising the price of the Quest 2 to 400 USD

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Post by nickthegreek »

AnIdiotOnTheNet wrote: post #232
nickthegreek wrote: post #224

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can play any of your steam vr games on the quest 2.

Sure, with some hackery. I'd rather pay for something that doesn't require me to work around it like that. Why pay for this in-headset computer if I'm not using it?

no hackery required. it works wireless as well.

Re: Meta is raising the price of the Quest 2 to 400 USD

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Post by SCUSKU »

yonaguska wrote: post #3

As much as I wanted to get into VR, Meta taking over the Quest has thankfully saved me countless sunken dollars and hours.

Couldn't agree more. Two or so years ago I was thinking about getting into VR, but once I saw the Quest required Facebook login, I said no thanks.

Re: Meta is raising the price of the Quest 2 to 400 USD

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Post by agentwiggles »

adastra22 wrote: post #151
Firmwarrior wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The VR enthusiast/dev community has gotten caught in a death spiral when it comes to simulation sickness.. They encourage each other to "get your VR legs" and play/demand/make nausea-inducing games, and it just chases away all the normal human beings who don't want to spend months gently training their bodies to become immune to it (FYI, the way it works is you play until you start to feel a hint of nausea, and stop…

When it comes to nausea, it’s once and done for me. Wtf would I ever put myself through that again, for a game? I’d rather go outside, thanks.

I want to love VR, but I can't help but agree. I can't think of a time a walk through the neighborhood woods has made me nauseous :)

Re: Meta is raising the price of the Quest 2 to 400 USD

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Post by spywaregorilla »

iwebdevfromhome wrote: post #215

Too bad, I wish more people have the opportunity to play a game changing experience like Half-life Alyx. If I have to describe it, it's like playing Mario 64 for the first time back in the day.

As someone who thought Alyx was really underwhelming, what makes you say that? The only thing I thought Alyx did well was the pick up system and the healing station. The healing had a cool physicality to it. But there was basically nothing else in the game that achieved that. Alyx would have been just as good on the wii imo.
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