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Re: FCC proposes to increase minimum broadband speeds to 100 Mbps

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Gigabit is so clutch, it's worth it for the satisfaction of being able to download a 30 gig game in less time than it takes to go to the bathroom.

Do game stores even support providing downloads that fast?

Valve's steam has had custom edge gear in place with most major ISPs for a decade+. So yes that is indeed hella fast.

That said I personally mostly see 700Mbps-ish

Re: FCC proposes to increase minimum broadband speeds to 100 Mbps

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There's a lot of comments on this thread pointing out typical bandwidth usage of popular streaming services, games etc and claiming that there's no need for higher bandwidth connections. There's an important point that I think people are missing, which is that the bandwidth usage of internet services is going to be carefully tuned to balance quality and stability at typical internet speeds. When a large portion of co…

To pile on here with a tangential analogy:

My parents worked at IBM in the 70s through '00s. They told me when new hardware came to the office that had a gigabyte of storage and their reaction:

"A gigabyte! What would you ever do with a whole gigabyte?!"

Re: FCC proposes to increase minimum broadband speeds to 100 Mbps

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There's a lot of comments on this thread pointing out typical bandwidth usage of popular streaming services, games etc and claiming that there's no need for higher bandwidth connections. There's an important point that I think people are missing, which is that the bandwidth usage of internet services is going to be carefully tuned to balance quality and stability at typical internet speeds. When a large portion of co…

In video many things become possible with higher bandwidth availability:

Youtube Recommended video bitrates for 60fps HDR UPLOADS:

8K: 150 to 300 Mbps, 2160p (4K): 66 to 85 Mbps, 1440p (2K): 30 Mbps, 1080p: 15 Mbps,

Some example uncompressed video bitrates: 1080p60: 3 Gbps, 2160p30: 6 Gbps, 2160p60: 12 Gbps, 2160p/8k@60: 24 Gbps and upward,

It might be hard to imagine using uncompressed video over the internet, I know it is for me. But all the applications we can only do locally start to become possible over large geographic areas. The applications could be amazing relative to what we know and understand today.

I think applications we can't imagine would become possible with large jumps in low-cost available bandwidth.

References: https://www.optcore.net/introduction-to-sdi/ https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/1722171?hl=en#zipp...

Re: FCC proposes to increase minimum broadband speeds to 100 Mbps

#234

There's a lot of comments on this thread pointing out typical bandwidth usage of popular streaming services, games etc and claiming that there's no need for higher bandwidth connections. There's an important point that I think people are missing, which is that the bandwidth usage of internet services is going to be carefully tuned to balance quality and stability at typical internet speeds. When a large portion of co…

To pile on here with a tangential analogy: My parents worked at IBM in the 70s through '00s. They told me when new hardware came to the office that had a gigabyte of storage and their reaction: "A gigabyte! What would you ever do with a whole gigabyte ?!"

I had the exact reaction when my dad brought home our first 1gb hd in the 90s. "Do you realize how many books you can store pn that?!"

Re: FCC proposes to increase minimum broadband speeds to 100 Mbps

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You have access to residential internet with 10Gbps up and down? I didn't even know that was a thing.

I've got 25/25Gbps here in Switzerland. I pay ~$65/month.

Can you please elaborate on your experience with it?

Previously, on HN I remember seeing this post

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31134534

Re: FCC proposes to increase minimum broadband speeds to 100 Mbps

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I would gladly pay $200 a month for that.

I'd pay $200/mo for that if it didn't come with a transfer cap. That's the problem with making bandwidth the only metric that we grade broadband connections on. You end up with "Gigabit" connections that you can only use at that speed very occasionally, because otherwise you'll hit a monthly transfer cap. (E.g. Cox's "Gigablast" service, which pairs a 1Gb connection with a transfer cap worth about 20 minutes per mont…

I have ATT fiber.

1000/1000 for $70/mo, no data cap, includes hbo max.

Re: FCC proposes to increase minimum broadband speeds to 100 Mbps

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With how slowly these proposals roll out, 100/20 won't be enough. As others said, there is a lack of both competition and pricing to worry about too. In a major tech hub like San Francisco, where I live, it's possible to get 1gb/1gb in some areas for under $90, but which those are isn't consistent nor wide spread. Home cell coverage at 100/20 is spotty at best, and there is only one flat rate vendor (T-Mobile Home, n…

This. I am insanely embarrassed by the third world telecom infrastructure many Americans have to live with. 100Mbps symmetrical is just on the edge of what telcos can jam into dsl over their existing install base. The goal of the telco is to keep the FCC speed goal at copper limits for as long as possible to avoid paying the fiber they were paid to build in the 90’s. Om Malik wrote a fantastic book entitled: “Broadba…

I’ve never had good internet in America, but my internet has been so good in east Asia. Even japan, which is supposedly worse than other countries, is worlds better than what I ever paid for in the states.

The one exception is China. I could never live there because of their shit internet due to the great firewall

Re: FCC proposes to increase minimum broadband speeds to 100 Mbps

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There's a lot of comments on this thread pointing out typical bandwidth usage of popular streaming services, games etc and claiming that there's no need for higher bandwidth connections. There's an important point that I think people are missing, which is that the bandwidth usage of internet services is going to be carefully tuned to balance quality and stability at typical internet speeds. When a large portion of co…

> There's a lot of comments on this thread pointing out typical bandwidth usage of popular streaming services, games etc and claiming that there's no need for higher bandwidth connections. You said it, not me. You said there's shills on this thread. That's the only possible motivation to argue there's no need for more bandwidth, there's another reason I came up with but I don't want it to be plagiarized, so I won't s…

Regarding your Cussen Test, did you write this comment using something like GPT-2?

I got curious so I checked a few of your account’s other comments. Some of them are very similar to this one [0], but others are short and concise [1]. I can think of a few other explanations for this, but since you mentioned the test…

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31937861

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31988748

Re: FCC proposes to increase minimum broadband speeds to 100 Mbps

#240

There's a lot of comments on this thread pointing out typical bandwidth usage of popular streaming services, games etc and claiming that there's no need for higher bandwidth connections. There's an important point that I think people are missing, which is that the bandwidth usage of internet services is going to be carefully tuned to balance quality and stability at typical internet speeds. When a large portion of co…

Sure, but getting true blacks on your 4k screen isn't exactly a compelling government aim.
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