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Binding on four!
Yup, getting something on three now
Ok folks…
Enclave: An Unpickable Lock
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#232Interesting design. I made a lock a couple years ago that is quite similar in principle (though this design is different and has a couple nice improvements). https://youtu.be/_7vPNcnYWQ4 One of my main goals is to be an inspiration, though if it was based by my design I wish they’d credit it. Especially since they’re patenting it.
His page says "patent pending" near the bottom. Would your work count as prior art?
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#233A lot of people saying this is similar/same to the lock from Stuff Made Here. Certainly both use the same concept of preventing single pin picking by separating the pin alignment and matching stages, but this does appear to be a unique design. SMH used a pushing mechanism to bind the pins in place before trialing a set of gates via rotation; this one sort of does the reverse, with pins never binding (see stack of sep…
Torqueing a lock in a way that is visible is usually not a problem for the threat model a lock is attempting to address. However, this mechanism looks like it may be vulnerable to torqueing without external signs of damage.
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#234I wonder if there are discussion about non linear locking.
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Why do you dislike people making a logo and trademark out of their name? It is a very old way to identify your trade with your name. In some countries it is the default for sole proprietorship to use your name in that way.
because branding is for companies and their products. it’s an attempt at misrepresentation
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The interaction of engineering and "use" by the Lock Picking Lawyer ( https://youtu.be/Ecy1FBdCRbQ ) was fascinating - "use" here really meaning "exploiting". It's a problem many here are aware of, either by over-engineering things intended for use by non-engineers, or designing things to be used by customers when the designer isn't intimately familiar with the use. In this case it was sort of somewhere in between. I…
Def want to see Enclave's under Lock Picking Lawyer! If you make a "unpickable lock" you'd def want to send it to LPL, that's like the ultimate proof of how easy/hard it is to pick. The fact that there's no video, with how approachable LPL is and accepts random locks in his PO box, can only be seen as a red flag. Do it in the open, like Stuff Made Here!
Check out another prominent lock sporter, Lock Noob. He has a recent video where he examines the lock and agrees it’ll be hard to pick.
Unpickable locks aren’t that unique or rare in the community but they tend to be too complex to make it to market at a reasonable price or with the ability to withstand years of wear and tear and still work.
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"You can just kick in the door" is approximately the least interesting thing you could possibly say about a new pick-resistant lock design. Sure, you could use an RFID lock, too! Or an armed guard.
but it’s true. sword making is very interesting as well, but we don’t make swords because we have guns. live in the now
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#238Why people keep using mechanical locks when electronics is cheaper and could use unbeatable encryption?
The problem is that there are still mechanical bits inside electronic locks, and now you have two areas of attack: the mechanics and the electronics. And as already mentioned, they often have a mechanical lock mechanism as a backup for if the battery is dead, further increasing the attack surface. If the LPL is to be believed, a lot of electronic locks that are on the market are easier to open than Master Locks.
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Def want to see Enclave's under Lock Picking Lawyer! If you make a "unpickable lock" you'd def want to send it to LPL, that's like the ultimate proof of how easy/hard it is to pick. The fact that there's no video, with how approachable LPL is and accepts random locks in his PO box, can only be seen as a red flag. Do it in the open, like Stuff Made Here!
> that's like the ultimate proof of how easy/hard it is to pick I would assume there's much better locksmiths on the planet than the most famous one on youtube who does it as a side job.
It is not a side job anymore. He has stopped lawyering to concentrate on security. He launched covertinstruments.com, which sells tools and training.
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#240I wonder how many seconds it will take on a certain Youtube channel..