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"unskilled labor" What an extremely elitist phrase.
Do you have a better term for it?
"labor" and "job"
Kickstarter Union voted 97.6% to ratify one of the first tech union contracts
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#232Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's worth remembering that the event that, uh, kickstarted their drive for unionization was the site's management banning a project that was raising money to support violence against conservatives (the actual physical kind, not words). The details are a bit fuzzy now but iirc some of the hard-left employees didn't like the ToS being enforced in that case, because whilst they accepted the project was calling for viol…
> raising money to support violence against conservatives Let's be clear; the title was "Always Punch Nazis", not "Always Punch Conservatives". If you're mixing the two up, that's more on you than the author.
The entire comic is predicated on a meme coming out rioting at UC Berkeley when Milo Yiannopoulos was scheduled to speak on campus
It is a reference to a tweet from writer Mike Monteiro, who declared “It’s ok to punch nazis AND white male libertarians who wanna talk about free speech.”
It is not about literal German Nazis, It is about attributing the title of Nazi to US conservatives and validating physical violence.
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#233Earlier quoted context omitted.
>If the Foxconn factory unionized, you can bet iPhones would cost hundreds of dollars more. I'd be willing to bet that they don't. iPhone prices are set at the highest price that Apple determines people are willing to pay, not by the cost to produce it; even the costs that do exist are mostly materials, not labor costs. Labor costs are close to 1% of the sticker price [1]. This is the same as the argument that errone…
Apple sets prices based on what they think will maximize their profitability. If iPhone cost $1M dollars, there are still people who would buy it. Demand is a curve, not a fixed value.
I'm not sure what you're saying, but GP was arguing that an increase in wages for manufacturing iPhone would eat at apples profit margins, not add to the products final price.
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#234Earlier quoted context omitted.
He's saying he doesn't want the choice denied to him, as unionization advocates frequently attempt to justify.
Democracy needs no apologies. You are denied choices everyday because society and government have agreed upon those choices. There will always be those upset because they feel their rights are infringed upon.
By that logic, slavery in the US was a-ok if/because it was supported by the majority. That is why rights not subject to majority exist and should exist.
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> Corporations bargain collectively by default; Only with unskilled labor. My profession is skilled and the skillset is in demand and hard to find. I bargain for myself, thanks. I have repeatedly and at length discussed on HN about my 3 separate union membership experiences and how I will never again repeat them.
"unskilled labor" What an extremely elitist phrase.
Thank you for complimenting the above insightful comment! :)
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>"Let's be clear; the title was "Always Punch Nazis", not "Always Punch Conservatives". If you're mixing the two up, that's more on you than the author." I've definitely noticed an overlap between the kinds of folks who want society to embrace and normalize violence against "Nazis" and the kinds of folks who go around accusing opponents of Nazism with little to no restraint. Edit: I'm struggling to articulate this, b…
> I've definitely noticed an overlap between the kinds of folks who want society to embrace and normalize violence against "Nazis"... C'mon. Beating up and killing Nazis has been a core part of American culture for 80 years or so. Comics, video games, movies. Is Inglorious Basterds anti-conservative? Is Captain America?
That's an appeal to tradition. If harassing gay people was a core part of American culture should we continue to do it? Beating up and killing people over one's political beliefs is wrong.
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#237Really digging unions in tech. I for one would love to slack off for a few years as a semi-sabbatical/early-semi-retirement before I leave a job. Or at least to dial down my contributions without fear of being paid less :)
Just kidding, I think unions are pure evil, and the above is not even the worst one of the many reasons.
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#238Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I've definitely noticed an overlap between the kinds of folks who want society to embrace and normalize violence against "Nazis"... C'mon. Beating up and killing Nazis has been a core part of American culture for 80 years or so. Comics, video games, movies. Is Inglorious Basterds anti-conservative? Is Captain America?
That's an appeal to tradition. If harassing gay people was a core part of American culture should we continue to do it? Beating up and killing people over one's political beliefs is wrong.
"It was wrong to beat up gay people" and "it was wrong to beat up the Nazis" are... not quite comparable, I'd argue.
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#239Definitely wouldn't want to be part of a union. I represent myself, thanks. Smaller and wide set of unions in an industry can be effective, but industry wide unions are effectively a monopoly on labor supply and bad for society. Look no further than the MTA in NYC. Terrible cost overruns and bad governance of the subway system, for what? So employees can clock extra hours and get egregiously overpaid? No thanks. Comp…
Are you still a consultant as stated in your bio? Wouldn’t mass unionization give you even more of a leg up assuming employers rely on 3rd parties more to avoid the headache?
I personally think current market rates for contractors, esp the staff Aug kind, are still lower than they should be, all things considered
Re: Kickstarter Union voted 97.6% to ratify one of the first tech union contracts
#240Definitely wouldn't want to be part of a union. I represent myself, thanks. Smaller and wide set of unions in an industry can be effective, but industry wide unions are effectively a monopoly on labor supply and bad for society. Look no further than the MTA in NYC. Terrible cost overruns and bad governance of the subway system, for what? So employees can clock extra hours and get egregiously overpaid? No thanks. Comp…
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