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Apple unveils all-new MacBook Air, supercharged by the new M2 chip

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Post by mrtranscendence »

jbverschoor wrote: post #179
mrtranscendence wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On the contrary, I suspect they have market research to the effect that only a small proportion of users have or want multiple screens, and of those who do, they're likely to buy a more expensive model in the first place. Basically everyone I know has gone the route of a single large display, Mac user or not.

I'd buy an MBP if it didn't have fans, and if it weren't such a 2013-style lunchbox.

I genuinely don't know what "2013-style lunchbox" means here. Lunchbox to me means a small metal box with a handle that has a picture of an 80s cartoon on it.

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Post by dgellow »

sgarman wrote: post #209
dgellow wrote: post #202

I hoped the notch would be just an experiment and Apple would get rid of it the next iteration. It seems I was wrong. It looks so weird to have your top menu bar split in two, I really don’t get why it is necessary.

I have a launch day MBP16" and I haven't noticed the notch a single day so far. I just have more screen space now. Does it really bother you in your day to day?

I do not have an M1 laptop, so I cannot answer your question.

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Post by gorgoiler »

New hardware is exciting but it’s also a bit scary.

I’ve been burned by Apple hardware faults before. Dodgy keyboard, faulty display, bad battery. It would be cool to see the design velocity slow down a bit for some models so that they can iron out the bugs properly. I’ve no interest in being a Guinea pig for whatever A9999’s problem shakes out to be.

To be fair, Apple will often conclude that the faults are endemic and engage in a replacement program.

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Post by stetrain »

ianai wrote: post #212
jmyeet wrote: post #31

The 24GB unified memory is a really nice upgrade (the M1 MBA has 8GB upgradeable to 16GB). The CPU/GPU upgrades are predictable and wlecome but the memory is huge. A lot of development isn't CPU bound but is memory bound or at least can really benefit from more memory. This upgrade makes the MBA an entirely viable dev machine for many workloads. I have a MBP (Intel) but it's expensive. Getting a viable machine for $1…

The RAM being on-die, the 8 gig option is probably a result of binning and marketing what makes sense with yield rates.

It’s on-package not on-die. The RAM capacity isn’t related to the binning of the M2 die.

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Post by MikusR »

bitwize wrote: post #160
UmbertoNoEco wrote: post #89

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400 USD for a 16GB upgrade is daylight street robbery. The power of brands.

For slow-ass DIMM memory, sure. But we're talking on-die integrated memory that's leagues ahead of any PC memory in performance.

Its on package not die

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Post by smoldesu »

bitwize wrote: post #175
grumpyprole wrote: post #154

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes it's made with iPhone/iPad parts instead of PC parts :)

In other words, they're made with parts from best-of-breed computing devices, superior to janky-ass PC parts :)

...just don't compare GPU benchmarks. Or any SIMD operations, for that matter.

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Post by notatoad »

jmyeet wrote: post #31

The 24GB unified memory is a really nice upgrade (the M1 MBA has 8GB upgradeable to 16GB). The CPU/GPU upgrades are predictable and wlecome but the memory is huge. A lot of development isn't CPU bound but is memory bound or at least can really benefit from more memory. This upgrade makes the MBA an entirely viable dev machine for many workloads. I have a MBP (Intel) but it's expensive. Getting a viable machine for $1…

for the person who's looking for a machine to handle emails, facebook, netflix, and maybe a bit of document editing, 8GB is totally fine. and even if that extra ram was free, it still has a cost in battery life. 8GB of ram is the right choice for a lot of people buying a macbook air.

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Post by apozem »

grumpyprole wrote: post #111

Almost 10 years ago we purchased a MacBook Pro with 16GB RAM and 512GB SSD for approx 2K UK pounds. It's really surprising and disappointing that a decade later these same specs essentially cost the same!

Not to be rude but this is an inaccurate and poor understanding of computers. The entire chip architecture of the Mac changed since 2010. 16 gigs of RAM on an M1-based chip gets you much, much better performance than 16 gigs on an Intel chip from 10 years ago.

Even the RAM and SSD stats you cite are apples and oranges - both have gotten dramatically faster in the last decade.

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Post by coder543 »

gnicholas wrote: post #184
interestica wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And still just the two USBC ports. I would have jumped to this if it just had better onboard connectivity like it's 14/16 versions.

Oh man I didn’t even realize that. So if you want HDMI or SD slots you have to shell out $2k for the high-end MBPs?

Yes. There is literally no point to the 13" MBP. No one should buy it.

The M2 Air looks great, and the 14" and 16" MBP continue to be great as well (but pricey).

The 13" MBP offers you nothing but an outdated chassis, screen, and keyboard.

Ignore the word "Pro". There was nothing more Pro about the 13" MBP when M1 came out... and it's even less Pro than the M2 MBA this time around.

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