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I only care about the helpful notifications, not the promotional ones

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Re: I only care about the helpful notifications, not the promotional ones

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I've been struggling with the Uber app and Uber Eats who has been sending me ads which I found no way to disable. My problem is that I do want notifications for when my driver has arrived.

You could stop using Uber and Uber Eats.

You could also be a hermit and live in the woods. Thats not really the point though. For paid services, I think it’s entirely reasonable to say that you don’t want to see ads.

Re: I only care about the helpful notifications, not the promotional ones

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Heh. I was woken up by an Uber greenwashing marketing notification. All notifications off (and in any case if I am waiting for a Uber I have the app on waiting for the countdown and I don't need the notifications anyway). If there were a viable competitor to them where I live, I would have deleted the app altogether and given them a 1-star rating. Apple's policies ban the use of push notifications for marketing purpo…

> Apple's policies ban the use of push notifications for marketing purposes Not anymore, this was rolled back a year or two ago unfortunately. About the same time Apple themselves started using push notifications for marketing.

I think the relevant rule is section 4.5.4 of the App Store Review Guidelines:

> 4.5.4 Push Notifications must not be required for the app to function, and should not be used to send sensitive personal or confidential information. Push Notifications should not be used for promotions or direct marketing purposes unless customers have explicitly opted in to receive them via consent language displayed in your app’s UI, and you provide a method in your app for a user to opt out from receiving such messages. Abuse of these services may result in revocation of your privileges.

https://developer.apple.com/app-store/review/guidelines/

So the language is weaker, but it should still be possible to disable marketing notifications.

(Edit to add: and I report apps that don't provide that option, citing the above. So far, doing so hasn't achieved anything though.)

Re: I only care about the helpful notifications, not the promotional ones

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One strike and you're out rule works perfectly fine for me. If they think they can abuse my attention with stuff like this, I immediately uninstall and go on with my life.

I've been struggling with the Uber app and Uber Eats who has been sending me ads which I found no way to disable. My problem is that I do want notifications for when my driver has arrived.

Unblock notifications only when you need them

Re: I only care about the helpful notifications, not the promotional ones

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I've noticed this in social networks as well. If you don't get enough transactional notifications for a while they start making up fake ones like Twitter's "in case you missed this Tweet", Facebook's "[someone] posted for the first time in a while", all the while lighting up the notifications badge. Leads to a "boy who cried wolf" scenario in which I stop trusting notifications entirely and just ignore them, possibly…

In that case i will go above and beyond to get rid of their ads. uBlock, DNS Filtering, iOS Jailbreaking ...

Never used https://adnauseam.io/ ... but mhmmm maybe it’s the next step.

Install the extension, load Twitter end set up endless scroll or Puppeteer script. Adnauseam would click EVERY ad it sees.

Re: I only care about the helpful notifications, not the promotional ones

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You could stop using Uber and Uber Eats.

You could also be a hermit and live in the woods. Thats not really the point though. For paid services, I think it’s entirely reasonable to say that you don’t want to see ads.

It is reasonable to say you don't want ads. Unfortunately Uber has decided to say "too bad, what are you going to do about it?"

Re: I only care about the helpful notifications, not the promotional ones

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If an app gives me spammy promotional notifications, it either A) gets uninstalled (if I don't particularly care about the app), B) gets a 1-star review with a clear comment about the notifications, or C) all of the above. The app I use to pay for parking spots suddenly gave me a notification once, apparently to try and get me to park my car more often or something. I gave it a one-star review, never saw one of those…

The problem is with businesses that are in some other business than the app business. For example the coffee business. It doesn't matter how good/bad the app is, usually the app wasn't why you chose their business, it was location, quality of a product etc. And it's their app or no app.

Re: I only care about the helpful notifications, not the promotional ones

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I have a somewhat similar gripe about apps, which has some recent implications: there seems to be some school of thought for engagement, which suggests that something that's not used at least weekly is useless. For this reason Google started automatically removing permissions from apps I didn't use for some time and it's also suggested I could delete them "to save space" which is frankly quite stupid -- I have quite…

Sadly, features aren't added to Android because they're good for users, they're added because they'll look good in someone's promotion packet.

Re: I only care about the helpful notifications, not the promotional ones

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This is literally what drove me away from Facebook, completely. Their constant “redesigning” of notification and privacy settings was a veiled effort to force whatever notifications in front of me. There are certain notifications I want from you Facebook, but you made a grave miscalculation when you thought I’d put up with everything else you threw at me. So here I am, a Facebook user since 2007(?) who pretty much wa…

User since 2006, ran away in 2006. Not been back. Dodged a bayraktar, there.

*though i am somewhat annoyed that i cant use whatsapp, as a result. WA seems like a great app, just owned by a company i can't support.

Re: I only care about the helpful notifications, not the promotional ones

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Which can be solved by finding a competitor with less abusive practices.

Not in a monopoly or oligopoly, which is the common case in markets with high barriers to entry.

If this a hypothetical? I can't think of any monopolies that I need to do business with that only do business through an app.
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