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California Drought Update May 2022 [pdf]

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Re: California Drought Update May 2022 [pdf]

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And at the same time we are being prohibited from paying for more water production (desalination) by the coastal commission and various activists: https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2022-05-12/resident... Paying for desalinated water should absolutely be an option. If a household can’t afford it, then a necessary normal amount should be provided, but let others fund the infrastructure we need. Politicians and a…

I feel the problem with the coastal commission and activists groups is a deep oppositional culture which is unhelpful when it comes to actually fixing things. And then there is the 'can't do' disease that's infected the American mind.

Re: California Drought Update May 2022 [pdf]

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If you really wanna get your blood boiling read up on Sacramento as a water district... I moved to California some years ago from a water-rich area of the US after having spent some time living in a European country where water is very expensive. The state that I lived in near the Great Lakes has incredibly strict water use and pollution guidelines BECAUSE water is so integral to the social and economic well-being of that Great Lakes state. I was flabbergasted by the wastefulness of non-industry water use in California but then a few years ago I learned about Sacramento and water and was speechless:

Due to historical reasons Sacramento has absurd water use policies that have - for whatever reason - barely been changed in the past fifty years. As of 2005 only 20% of Sacramento had metered water: https://www.cityofsacramento.org/Utilities/Water/Conservatio... Yes, you read that correctly. Then, in the mid-2010s Gov. Schwarzenegger signed a bill requiring that all residential and commerical buildings in CA have water meters installed ... by 2025. Sacramento tried to 'get out ahead' of the law and install water meters which don't actual require you to pay for water used as a large portion of Sacramento is still on flat-rate water plans. The water meters simply tell you how much water you're using. The company that was doing the installation of water meters installed faulty / fraudulent meters in 90% of the 13,000 homes and business that it was contracted to install water meters at: https://sacramentocityexpress.com/2022/04/13/city-of-sacrame... A large portion of Sacramento is on flat-rate water, meaning you can use as much water as you want for ~$50 - $60 a month: https://www.cityofsacramento.org/Utilities/Water/Water-Servi... As someone who has lived in the Great Lakes region I was shocked to learn that in such an arid region of the country there's such an (absurd) thing as "flat-rate water" plans for residential and commercial buildings.

KQED did some reporting a few years ago and - unsurprisingly - in places in California where there's "flat-rate water" people use more water - A LOT MORE!- than in places where you're actually billed for your usage. Flat-rate water customers use 40% more water: https://www.kqed.org/science/15191/california-communities-th...

An upside, I guess, is that I was looking at a habitability map produced by the (US) public television station(s) and within 20-30 years the Central Valley will be so hot for most of the year as to render it uninhabitable. I guess the 'plan' of Sacramento - the state government, I mean - is to stick their heads in the sand for another few decades until there's a massive population exodus from Central Valley. Houses on the coast are so expensive, yes, because people want to live there now, but are also taking into account that most of the interior of the state will not be liveable in a few short decades. (Heres's the link to the analysis that was shown on my local public TV station: https://projects.propublica.org/climate-migration/ Note how the middle of California becomes too hot to sustain life within a few decades. I'm personally of the belief that this will happen sooner due to depleted aquifers and general mismanagement of the water table. Water evaporation 'behaves strangely' when you've already screwed up the porous groundwater-holding rock that is underneath the surface water - lakes, rivers, wetlands, etc.)

Re: California Drought Update May 2022 [pdf]

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> rather than produce food with it California can probably produce enough food for itself without overseas exports of alfalfa and almonds.

Where are you and these other commenters getting this falsehood that a significant portion of alfalfa is exported? Is it one of those articles about that Saudi owned land exporting their alfalfa? > Based on USDA data for 2021, only 3.9% of all U.S. hay produced and 6.4% of all alfalfa hay entered the export market. [1] In case that's unclear, 96.1% of hay and 93.6% of alfalfa is consumed domestically. [0]: https://ha…

Probably they are considering the data for California (relevant to this discussion) rather than the US as a whole. Although the link you posted doesn't break out the percentage for California, it does say that 20% of western state alfalfa is exported.

However, the percentage is less important than the overall amount.

"If California only produced enough almonds for the United States, than it would have about 8 percent more available water. If California only produced enough alfalfa for the U.S., it would have at least 3 percent more available water."

https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/opinion/commentary/stor...

Re: California Drought Update May 2022 [pdf]

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And at the same time we are being prohibited from paying for more water production (desalination) by the coastal commission and various activists: https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2022-05-12/resident... Paying for desalinated water should absolutely be an option. If a household can’t afford it, then a necessary normal amount should be provided, but let others fund the infrastructure we need. Politicians and a…

> Another crazy point - apparently for liability reasons, recycled water that’s not potable quality (meaning just fine for watering, but you shouldn’t drink it or use in a pool) cannot be delivered to consumers. If you mean delivered by pipe into the home, that's harder since there's only one water main so it'd be a major project. But at least in my California town, there is a distribution site where I can go pick up…

We have that too, but to water our trees that would mean I need a truck and at least a 250 gallon tank. Hardly an efficient or green solution since I’d be burning quite a bit of fuel to do this.
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