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The impact of digital media on children’s intelligence

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Re: The impact of digital media on children’s intelligence

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Measuring "Intelligence" always seems to result in some questionable science.....

That being said I do wonder about how I would have turned out had my childhood not been spent hiding under the covers at night with a small light devouring novel after novel and instead been inundated with social media and other distractions.

Re: The impact of digital media on children’s intelligence

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Tell that to my son's anime addiction. It's worse than his gaming addiction ever was.

How old is he and what is he watching? (if you don't mind)

13, and tons of anime. Naruto, Sword Art Online, One Piece, Full Metal Alchemist, and now Seven Deadly Sins.

Re: The impact of digital media on children’s intelligence

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Measuring "Intelligence" always seems to result in some questionable science..... That being said I do wonder about how I would have turned out had my childhood not been spent hiding under the covers at night with a small light devouring novel after novel and instead been inundated with social media and other distractions.

Hiding and reading instead of sleeping is some universal thing? Fine :-)

Today it's hiding and using the "smart"phone

Re: The impact of digital media on children’s intelligence

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The fact that they "controlled" for genetics using polygenic scores already is a strong sign of low quality research. Polygenic scores are powerful, but they contain very large amounts of noise compared to the true genetic effects. Controlling for genetics using them is like controlling for income by asking whether the respondents own a Porsche. Also, be aware that Scientific Reports is, if not quite a predatory jour…

The worst things you can say about Scientific Reports are it doesn't have the same novelty/impact requirements as many journals* and people like to over-emphasize the "Nature" part of the name in a pointles grab for journal prestige. Journals in general can be pretty shady on a case-by-case basis. See "Nano Chopsticks" published in Nano Letters for a good materials science example of straight garbage (laughably obvious image manipulation) getting published in a fancy journal.

*Not really a problem if you correctly believe science should be more than publishing sexy results.

Re: The impact of digital media on children’s intelligence

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I’ve tried to encourage my wife to choose video games over Disney+ when she needs to drop the kids in front of something, but she still has a strong resistance to the idea that games are better. To me, it’s pretty obvious. The kids problem solve when gaming, and are obviously engaged. When watching TV, they look like zombies. I think my wife’s biggest hang up with games is that she was always told that they rot your…

> To me, it’s pretty obvious. The kids problem solve when gaming, and are obviously engaged. When watching TV, they look like zombies. Are you not just seeing what you want to see? Maybe from your wife's perspective, the kids are carefully to observing and learning a wide range of human emotions, social dynamics, new idioms and music from Disney+, whereas in their games they're learning a few tricks that they repeat…

Amen, my preschooler got a lot out of watching (quality) shows, learning about conflict resolution, expressing & communicating, and so on. Learning to relate with complex emotions that characters were experiencing was a big cognitive milestone.

Re: The impact of digital media on children’s intelligence

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What about neither TV or computer games and doing things outside like fishing, hiking, scouts, riding bikes etc ?

Are you asking seriously? How about bad weather, or that part of the day when you've already done those things?

For some of us 'bad weather' is good weather, and vice versa. Especially so for children- who doesn't like the uplifting feeling brought by rain?

Re: The impact of digital media on children’s intelligence

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Are you asking seriously? How about bad weather, or that part of the day when you've already done those things?

For some of us 'bad weather' is good weather, and vice versa. Especially so for children- who doesn't like the uplifting feeling brought by rain?

Freezing rain isn't uplifting.

Re: The impact of digital media on children’s intelligence

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A counter argument (made by Alan Kay and others) is that the language complexity of what people read is reducing which is leading to a return to an oral culture rather than literate culture (to our collective detriment). My anecdotal experience as a high school English teacher leads me to say this feels true.

Who are the others? I would like to read more about this.

A few years back a comparitive analysis was made of past president's vocabularies and their grade level: https://www.newsweek.com/trump-fire-and-fury-smart-genius-ob...

Politics aside it does seem that presidents have been pitching their language lower and lower to appeal to a broader audience. I recall reading about how Obama simplified the vocabulary of his speeches from college level to 10th grade, to 4th grade to 2nd grade: https://smartpolitics.lib.umn.edu/2010/01/29/professor-obama... https://smartpolitics.lib.umn.edu/2011/01/27/keeping-it-simp...

On the flip side though George Washington's first inaugaral address goes to the other extreme where it's impenetrably verbose: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/10/have-pr...

Anecdata at this point but I fear the OP might be right - we are simplifying our language over time.

Re: The impact of digital media on children’s intelligence

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The only program I let my kids use is KidPix on the iPad. It's a (rather remarkable) drawing and animation program and I'm constantly amazed at what they make with it. And sometimes horrified. But the 5 yo enjoys creating scenes with sound effects (that she recorded) and animation (that she also recorded), while the 3 yo enjoys making intricate drawings and then methodically coloring everything green. It's his favori…

There was a discussion here a few years back about this interview/documentary with the creator of the original KidPix: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25108875

Thanks jrussino! I was hoping HN would come through with some more info on the author, because it's clearly a special program, and it certainly wasn't on my radar before kids + public library. (They still call it "Kid Pix 3D" even though it's really "Kid Pix 5" on the iPad)

Re: The impact of digital media on children’s intelligence

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Explain that to the cops and Child Protective Services.

I absolutely would. It sickens me how our society seems hellbent on making sure everyone is anxious and fearful of everything, all of the time. If people do not stand up and push back, this sort of government paternalism just keeps intruding. I'd fight any charges against me to the supreme court if necessary, and I'd hope they'd set a precedent.

If you feel so much passion, whats stopping you now? You dont need kids to fight injustice. Stand up! Push back!
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