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Re: Netflix to Employees: If you don't like our content, you can quit

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Post by rendall »

robonerd wrote: post #228
rendall wrote: post #214

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Yeah, I might question that line about "more risky behavior", too. [citation needed] , as they say. Unless you mean "being trans" is the risky behavior?

From: https://slate.com/human-interest/2018/02/decriminalizing-pro... > According to the 2015 U.S. Transgender Survey, 19 percent of all trans people, and 47 percent of black trans women, have engaged in sex work. This does not take place in a vacuum but in the context of pervasive societal discrimination against trans people in general, and trans women of color in particular. Due to various injustices, sex work is v…

I acknowledge, I asked, and you brought the goods. Thank you.

Re: Netflix to Employees: If you don't like our content, you can quit

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Post by chmod600 »

thomasfedb wrote: post #156
chmod600 wrote: post #130

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motte-and-bailey_fallacy

If you're accusing me, be good enough to be specific.

"please let us live our lives... not a lot more to it"

But there is more to it. There are issues about women's sports, public education, the ethics of irreversible medical procedures on minors without an objective diagnosis, etc.

You explicitly avoided the controversy, and it's not really fair to do that.

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Post by otde »

ok_dad wrote: post #193
zionic wrote: post #150

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Why would you be opposed to individuals choosing to live as they will? Suppose I was trans, why would you be scared of or hate me knowing nothing else? I’m not trans, but I don’t get the hate, trans people literally don’t affect you a bit.

The sibling comment actually does a pretty good job articulating why we as trans people (surprise! I’m one of them) receive the reactions we do. It’s a fundamental disgust at the concept of a trans person existing, full stop. In an ideal world for these people, we simply would not exist. We challenge their expectations by asking to be addressed in a way that goes against their ideas of what gender, at its core, means to them. It’s a belief that the world works in a specific and rigid way, and that respecting the way another person chooses to be addressed is “feeding into a delusion.” This also feeds into a larger bit of discourse around trans kids that is tinged with the usual “think of the children” moral panics that show up whenever a kid is some flavor of LGBTQ+. It does not make for a great time on the internet (or on Hacker News, specifically).

Re: Netflix to Employees: If you don't like our content, you can quit

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Post by zionic »

whymauri wrote: post #138
zionic wrote: post #134

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You do not control that person's body, nor is it really your business what they do to their breasts -- which they own.

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Re: Netflix to Employees: If you don't like our content, you can quit

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Post by walkhour »

It's somewhat surprising how quickly Netflix has given up on their "progressive"values, which probably they thought were the right path to making more money, as soon as they found out they can actually be detrimental to them.

Now they have new values! Free speech, and they think they are a very serious topic that must be treaded carefully and thoughtfully. Because values are very important, not profit.

But you can be sure that if showing 10 year olds in a bikini was profitable, and society wasn't shocked by this, we'd have some new made up value supporting doing so.

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Post by antisthenes »

nautilius wrote: post #163
nahnahno wrote: post #54

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You clearly don’t have mental illness or a drug addiction. Yes, absolutely, you are severely discriminated against with either of those. People see you as utterly unreliable, weak, and unworthy of the kinds of respect afforded to able minded people.

Do people tell you that you are not really an addict or mentally ill, that that's not even a thing, and that it's just a phase you grow out of once you simply make up your mind? [edit] Ok, got it. I don't mean to question anyone's personal experience, and sorry that this is what's happening to you. Also, I don't want to 'rank' the degree of marginalization different groups experience, that's not at all what I'm after…

Most of the time they just dismiss your experiences, pretty overtly.

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Post by thomasfedb »

h3cate wrote: post #182
thomasfedb wrote: post #128

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The DSM is a book full of things that (a particular group of) academic doctors think should be considered to be illnesses. It's previously included homosexuality and "gender identity disorder" (transgenderism). It's a not a bad source, obviously, but being in a book does not make things diseases or not. That said, in my (medical) opinion, alcoholism and other addictions are much better to be considered (and treated)…

You minimise it as "being in a book". The book is: "a publication by the American Psychiatric Association for the classification of mental disorders". Are you part of the psychiatric field?

What I was trying to point out is that the relationship should be:

"is a mental health condition" infers "is in the DSM"

Raster than:

"is in the DSM" infers "is a mental health condition"

That said, the DSM is a good reference for finding out what the APA consider to be a legitimate condition.

I'm not a psychiatrist. But I do diagnose and treat mental health conditions most days at work.

Re: Netflix to Employees: If you don't like our content, you can quit

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Post by ok_dad »

otde wrote: post #233
ok_dad wrote: post #193

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Why would you be opposed to individuals choosing to live as they will? Suppose I was trans, why would you be scared of or hate me knowing nothing else? I’m not trans, but I don’t get the hate, trans people literally don’t affect you a bit.

The sibling comment actually does a pretty good job articulating why we as trans people (surprise! I’m one of them) receive the reactions we do. It’s a fundamental disgust at the concept of a trans person existing, full stop. In an ideal world for these people, we simply would not exist. We challenge their expectations by asking to be addressed in a way that goes against their ideas of what gender, at its core, means…

Thanks, I appreciate that explanation, I never understood moral panic or things of that nature. To me, a persons sex is pretty arbitrary, something that shouldn’t affect how we look at the person inside that body.

Re: Netflix to Employees: If you don't like our content, you can quit

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Post by thomasfedb »

jchw wrote: post #192
thomasfedb wrote: post #171

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Fixed! Yep, that was a slightly uncharitable reading of the parent post I accept.

It seems like your uncharitable reading was the one that actually intended, which is unfortunate. I guess that’s the perils of assuming good faith. I do think it is good to be precise here, though. The human brain really seems to like viewing groups of people as hiveminds.

Totally agree. The charitable interpretation is the right one to make if you actually care about arguing the ideas. I'm sure my philosophy professor would be very upset with me.

Re: Netflix to Employees: If you don't like our content, you can quit

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Post by ok_dad »

zionic wrote: post #206
ok_dad wrote: post #193

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Why would you be opposed to individuals choosing to live as they will? Suppose I was trans, why would you be scared of or hate me knowing nothing else? I’m not trans, but I don’t get the hate, trans people literally don’t affect you a bit.

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Have you watched 4k surgery videos of other surgeries? Do they make you repulsed as well? You seem to have some deep seated issues with being disgusted with something that isn’t any of your business. Why should you care how horrible it looks to surgically change sexes? Isn’t that between the individual and their surgical doctors? I’m pretty disgusted by you right now and I don’t even need to see 4k video of you.
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