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Feeling uncomfortable when leaving phone at home shouldn't be normal

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Re: Feeling uncomfortable when leaving phone at home shouldn't be normal

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post #72

I'm part of the new generation and I think the opposite. I am obsessed with my phone and the Internet. And I don't think it's bad. It's extremely stimulating in a way real life is orders of magnitude worse at. Point of reference, born around 2000. There's no going back for me. I want my phone at all times to have access to billions of possible thoughts, pictures, memes. It's literally a god like power.

You won't give your own mind space to be creative or think deeply if you're constantly getting microhits of novelty every 30 seconds.

This is why you put it in silent mode and check every couple hours. That has been my compromise on the issue.

Re: Feeling uncomfortable when leaving phone at home shouldn't be normal

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I’ll read the article but I’ll admit that my first reaction to this was… do they know how folks use their phone? My phone is my entire wallet now, in every way. Wether flying the country (boarding passes, I have clear), or purchasing something (I nearly exclusively use Apple Pay) I’ve long left behind needing to carry a proper wallet. I do make sure to carry a couple of $20s just in case there is some oddball reason…

What country does not require you to carry an id at all times where outside your house? Most countries do and most don't even accept alternate id's like driver's license.

The UK doesn't even have a national ID, The US would be at war if that was the requirement and here in Denmark I can have my drivers license as an app.

Re: Feeling uncomfortable when leaving phone at home shouldn't be normal

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I’ll read the article but I’ll admit that my first reaction to this was… do they know how folks use their phone? My phone is my entire wallet now, in every way. Wether flying the country (boarding passes, I have clear), or purchasing something (I nearly exclusively use Apple Pay) I’ve long left behind needing to carry a proper wallet. I do make sure to carry a couple of $20s just in case there is some oddball reason…

What country does not require you to carry an id at all times where outside your house? Most countries do and most don't even accept alternate id's like driver's license.

What country does not require you to carry an id at all times where outside your house?

Sweden doesn't for one.

Re: Feeling uncomfortable when leaving phone at home shouldn't be normal

#235
post #93
post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What kind of god, though? What are you missing that only exists in meat space? When you get older you might grow bored of the virtual stimulation trapped inside a screen.

Literally all of human knowledge.

Isn't it possible that someone has discovered something and not uploaded it to the internet?

Re: Feeling uncomfortable when leaving phone at home shouldn't be normal

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post #114
post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not really blaming you here, this attidue is very normal these days, but a mere 25 years ago, most people had no cell phone, no mobile phone, and never, ever suffered mishap as a result. (Inconvenience is not what I call a mishap) I grew up in the country, and a few times had to walk 20 miles home, due to a dead car. Being a rural area, after 10pm, I might see 1 or 2 cars the entire walk home (4 hours and a bit).…

> but a mere 25 years ago, most people had no cell phone, no mobile phone, and never, ever suffered mishap as a result. But that just isn't true. Being able to use a mobile radio to summon emergency services earlier has statistically significant association with improved outcomes [0]. It isn't just about what happens to you, it's about what you can do for others you come across in emergencies. 25 years ago, I'd need…

"most people", was in my comment. Many of your examples are non-common, special, too.

For example, this thread is about someone in the city, taking a walk (eg, to the corner store or some such), and not feeling safe.

It's all about stats, likelyhood, etc.

Re: Feeling uncomfortable when leaving phone at home shouldn't be normal

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Well not that I live in a bad neighborhood or anything like that, but you really don't know what could happen at any given moment, and need to phone emergency services. This is not paranoia (well maybe it is), but paranoia doesn't work retroactively, you have to be proactively paranoid. If you're concerned about privacy buy one of those cheap Nokia dumbphones that old people use. Keep your smartphone at home, and swa…

There's places where a phone won't help you at all. On the other hand, just screaming will. Screaming, like not yelling, screaming. Helped me out exactly three weeks ago today, when I was getting coercively shepherded by supermarket guards, into the supermarket, because the cashier accused me of not paying. But they weren't interested in seeing my receipt. Just in harassing me. Fortunately Jessica at the Farmacias Ma…

So in reply to the posters who said I could still have used a phone: I could not. I had an Apple iPhone of exactly the kind covered in the class-action lawsuit, of which there was one in Chile, and I was eligible for the payout, still am in fact, it's like 170 dollars. But I haven't.

So I left that one at home, and in fact one of the people who came grilled me over and over as we walked down Victoria Subercaseaux "why didn't you bring your phone?" "WHY DIDN'T YOU BRING YOUR PHONE?"

Well I told him I had a similar phone, just no radio, and was connecting to the Walmart subsidiary's wifi with it, explicitly ordering the guards for the password after the cashier, CE NEWEN according to the receipt, made her premeditated apology. But surprise, screaming worked. It actually worked better! It was much better for someone else to call on my behalf than for me to call myself. And secondly, too predictable, they can tear the phone out of your hands, these guards were in gang-up beating mode, so they would not have tolerated a phone, the obvious choice. Very impatient and there were six of them, apparently armed.

When I got home and received a call, the phone I was supposed to take, its battery died. So battery would have died calling people on my own behalf, when the battery dies unexpectedly, the battery meter acts weird, it's not like getting locked out, when it dies it's a brick, you can't call emergency services.

I couldn't slowly put anything on the ground, these guards were in Fuck the Law mode. Evidently, because they never had any interest in my receipt, or my testimony. Six, 6 guards, shepherding me coercively back to the Walmart subsidiary where they controlled all the cameras and knew the terrain, could make up any shit they wanted. And a lawyer that came, called Nacho, told me exactly that, these guys don't like calling police because they want that power for themselves.

The uniforms say SWAT on them, S-W-A-T, supposedly it's SWAT-branded private security apparel, nothing to do with American Special Weapons And Tactics like in the movies. Like Apple computer having nothing to do with apples, just a brandname, "nombre de fantasía", it's not like actual fruit. So they're trying to intimidate people with the power of the law, precisely so people don't dare defend themselves, to imply their victim will get accused resisting arrest.

Re: Feeling uncomfortable when leaving phone at home shouldn't be normal

#238

I’ll read the article but I’ll admit that my first reaction to this was… do they know how folks use their phone? My phone is my entire wallet now, in every way. Wether flying the country (boarding passes, I have clear), or purchasing something (I nearly exclusively use Apple Pay) I’ve long left behind needing to carry a proper wallet. I do make sure to carry a couple of $20s just in case there is some oddball reason…

What country does not require you to carry an id at all times where outside your house? Most countries do and most don't even accept alternate id's like driver's license.

The US has no requirement to carry your ID. I'm not sure there's any base requirement to have ID.

You only need your driver's license if you're driving, and ID in general is only required for certain activities that directly require identification or use the ID to confirm other information (eg age when buying alcohol).

Re: Feeling uncomfortable when leaving phone at home shouldn't be normal

#239
post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nobody is unhappy for not having what he doesn’t know that he can have.

Yes I don't not disagree also, not with this.

Try to reformulate the phrase avoiding negatives. It doesn’t mean the same.
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