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Why are some egg yolks so orange?

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Re: Why are some egg yolks so orange?

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> formaldehyde As a metabolic intermediate, formaldehyde is present at low levels in most living organisms. Formaldehyde can be found naturally in food up to the levels of 300 to 400 mg/kg, including fruits and vegetables (e.g. pear, apple, green onion), meats, fish, crustacean and dried mushroom, etc. Ingestion of a small amount of formaldehyde is unlikely to cause any acute effect. The main health concern of formal…

Well, sure. Here's the thing: with anything , the dose makes the poison -- and "low levels" and "small amount" are pretty important phrases in those claims, right? ( https://wwwn.cdc.gov/TSP/MMG/MMGDetails.aspx?mmgid=216&toxid... ) People aren't talking about the amounts in apples when they're referring to e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_Indonesia_food_scare

Agree.

But selecting formaldehyde for your scary example mostly just sounds scary because of it’s relation with embalming fluid. As you say, anything can be poisonous: the LD50 of many substances is surprisingly high https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Median_lethal_dose#Examples

From https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/19th-century-f...

  In 1896, desperately concerned about diseases linked to pathogens in milk, he even endorsed formaldehyde as a good preservative. The recommended dose of two drops of formalin (a mix of 40 percent formaldehyde and 60 percent water) could preserve a pint of milk for several days. It was a tiny amount, Hurty said, and he thought it might make the product safer.

  But the amounts were often far from tiny. Thanks to Hurty, Indiana passed the Pure Food Law in 1899 but the state provided no money for enforcement or testing. So dairymen began increasing the dose of formaldehyde, seeking to keep their product “fresh” for as long as possible. Chemical companies came up with new formaldehyde mixtures with innocuous names such as Iceline or Preservaline. (The latter was said to keep a pint of milk fresh for up to 10 days.) And as the dairy industry increased the amount of preservatives, the milk became more and more toxic.

  Hurty was alarmed enough that by 1899, he was urging that formaldehyde use be stopped, citing “increasing knowledge” that the compound could be dangerous even in small doses, especially to children. But the industry did not heed the warning.

  In the summer of 1900, The Indianapolis News reported on the deaths of three infants in the city’s orphanage due to formaldehyde poisoning. A further investigation indicated that at least 30 children had died two years prior due to use of the preservative, and in 1901, Hurty himself referenced the deaths of more than 400 children due to a combination of formaldehyde, dirt, and bacteria in milk.

  Following that outbreak, the state began prosecuting dairymen for using formaldehyde and, at least briefly, reduced the practice. But it wasn’t until Harvey Wiley and his allies helped secure the federal Pure Food and Drug Act in 1906 that the compound was at last banned from the food supply.
The article also talks about pasteurization being discovered in the 1850’s, but would not become standard procedure in the United States until the 1930s.

Re: Why are some egg yolks so orange?

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Over here in the bay area some Japanese markets have "golden yolk" brand eggs that have deep orange colored yolks. I don't know if they're more nutritious / taste better but the texture is different. When frying these and regular store bought eggs in the same pan, they hold their shape better. The store bought eggs spreads out more and the egg white tears more easily.

Ah, yes, that would be something I would be excited about in an egg - egg yolks that don't break easily. Many in my family love their eggs fried as "bulls eye" / "sunny side up" ( https://simpleindianrecipes.com/Home/Fried-Egg.aspx ).

Incidentally, that pictures actually shows another difference I noticed between these and "store bought" eggs. The store bought eggs the egg white when fried tend to get bubbly, where as the "golden yolk" eggs they tend to stay smooth. I prefer smooth, as the bubbly white gives a weird texture.

EDIT: I don't mean bubbly as in fried crispy kind of bubbly, but just air filled but not crispy kind.

Re: Why are some egg yolks so orange?

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I’m not sure much has changed in regard to the anecdote you shared. Kitchens are under a lot of pressure to get food out quickly and finish all of an order at the same time. I worked at a restaurant in the 90s as my very first job, and one day someone dropped a steak on the floor after it was done. I said oh dear, I’ll get another from the fridge. The cooks told me no, just wash it off and serve it, reasoning “If we…

My last boss worked at a sandwich shop in college (Pasadena, CA). One shift he knocked over a 5 gallon bucket of olives, which spilled all over the floor. He was mortified, but the owner seemed unperturbed. He handed him a broom and a dustpan and told him to get them all back in the bucket.

That reminds me of a story I heard from a friend in the Midwest who worked at a factory assembling frozen Italian dinners. He said that part of his job was to sweep up spilled grated cheese from the floor so they could use it in dinners.

Re: Why are some egg yolks so orange?

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Some french tv channel did a quick game test, asking a bunch of students to sip colored soda and guess the flavour. Green was mint, Red was strawberry, Yellow was citrus, they were all strawberry. Surprising "reality".

We did an experiment in class, where we drank sodas blindfolded. Not only did we fail to distinguish Coke Cola and Pepsi, we couldn't even tell sprite from coke! I would have never believed that they taste so incredibly similar without the experiment.

Coke and Pepsi do not taste the same, and Sprite does not taste like either of them.

It's not simply a matter of different amounts of sugar, they use different "natural flavors" and have different levels of carbonation.

The difference in flavors is roughly similar to the difference between an IPA, a double IPA, and a cider.

Re: Why are some egg yolks so orange?

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We did an experiment in class, where we drank sodas blindfolded. Not only did we fail to distinguish Coke Cola and Pepsi, we couldn't even tell sprite from coke! I would have never believed that they taste so incredibly similar without the experiment.

I'm skeptical. Coca Cola and Pepsi have fairly distinct flavor profiles. There are some that I could see being more problematic. Like RC vs Pepsi, which have a similar profile. But Sprite? Nah, that's got a strong citrus component that definitely doesn't exist in a cola.

Oh, they are probably indeed different. But the question wasn’t whether they were different; it was whether we could tell the difference in a blind folded test.

62 students, 50% error rate.

Re: Why are some egg yolks so orange?

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We did an experiment in class, where we drank sodas blindfolded. Not only did we fail to distinguish Coke Cola and Pepsi, we couldn't even tell sprite from coke! I would have never believed that they taste so incredibly similar without the experiment.

Coke and Pepsi do not taste the same, and Sprite does not taste like either of them. It's not simply a matter of different amounts of sugar, they use different "natural flavors" and have different levels of carbonation. The difference in flavors is roughly similar to the difference between an IPA, a double IPA, and a cider.

My guess is that some common ingredients have such strong flavor that the other ingredients are covered. We could reliably distinguish between coke and Diet Coke though.

Re: Why are some egg yolks so orange?

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Coke and Pepsi do not taste the same, and Sprite does not taste like either of them. It's not simply a matter of different amounts of sugar, they use different "natural flavors" and have different levels of carbonation. The difference in flavors is roughly similar to the difference between an IPA, a double IPA, and a cider.

My guess is that some common ingredients have such strong flavor that the other ingredients are covered. We could reliably distinguish between coke and Diet Coke though.

The Sprite vs Coke thing is surprising; Coke vs Diet Coke is not. I regularly find that I'm given Diet Coke even though I asked for regular. Aspartame and most other artificial sweeteners have a very distinctive flavor and I can generally detect it even in items I don't expect to find it in.

Re: Why are some egg yolks so orange?

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That could become a health issue if this is longterm.

If you have a reason to think eggs are unhealthy, state the reason so that there can be a discussion. Eggs are as close to a miracle food that I know, and I think it would be a shame to discourage their consumption.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23676423/

egg consumption may be associated with an increased incidence of type 2 diabetes among the general population and CVD comorbidity among diabetic patients.

Re: Why are some egg yolks so orange?

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This is a good way to teach hens that "eggs are food" and they may start eating their own eggs before you can get to them.

I have not had that experience. None of my current hens, or the dozens I've had, will eat them unless they're cracked. I toss them eggs every day and of the egg bounces without breaking, they will tap it with their beak and then leave it be. I know it can happen but I've not had it happen in the four or five years I've been keeping chickens. Although we wouldn't mind. We have them as pets and don't eat many of the eg…

That's good that you haven't had that experience. We haven't either with our hens, but enough of our neighbors have had that experience that I've received the "don't let hens eat eggs" advice from more than one one person who had firsthand experience with a hen getting accustomed to eating eggs, then breaking open most/all eggs before they could be collected, and then that hen had to be killed to save the eggs from the other hens.

Re: Why are some egg yolks so orange?

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post #201

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The same thing is true about red and white wine. Color it all red and no one can tell the difference.

I'm sorry, but that just isn't true. No doubt some wines cross over, but the tannins present in much red wine are notable by their absence from pretty much all white wine.

Heh, red wine makes me a bit nauseous while white feels like honey. I shall try blindfolded one day.
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