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Never hose out a Honda Element

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Re: Never hose out a Honda Element

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How do you see the metal under the drivers seat? Every car I have owned has had wall to wall carpet, including under the seats.

you remove the seats?

You just slide it back all the way and then slide it forward all the way.

Re: Never hose out a Honda Element

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The key in my opinion is a well designed and placed floor drain. They now make ones that keep wet. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=864WzLG1w2Q for example.

I like the idea but it seems like a sorta random use case for a home.

There’s a reason lots of places require leak pans for washing machines, dishwashers, water heaters, and so on. It will eventually happen so it’s often best to prepare for it, especially if on a wood floor. Water damage is very bas for a structure.

Re: Never hose out a Honda Element

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It was very widely reported that the car interior was designed to be washed with a hose. That would have been a big selling point for me except that it only had four seats, and it looked like a shed.

It's barely a shed. Check out the cybertruck for something that looks like a backyard shed.

It's not a bad thing necessarily, a rolling shed would be great for hauling things around and the Element especially has an amazing cargo opening when the doors open up. I should qualify that I'm used to driving compact to midsized sedans and wagons, so most CUVs look like sheds to me, but the Element especially so.

Don't get me started on the Cybertruck though, it really does look like a pole barn.

Re: Never hose out a Honda Element

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There are so many stories... I will start before the Bug: Daewoo Nubira: Drove it until the brakes fell off. Among other oopsies. VW Bug: Among about $5k in damage from various bad decisions, eventually somehow got T-Boned on his way to traffic safety school. (Too many speeding tickets) He literally rolled up to traffic safety school in a wrecked car. Fit: I have asked a few times about the Honda fits. First time wen…

Maybe at some point you should suggest to your friend that they start taking driving more seriously before they kill someone. I'd be stunned if they haven't injured someone yet. I just don't get how "bad driver" is a haw-haw thing instead of a "what the hell wrong with you" thing.

It's both. I try to exert some good influence where I can, but in general I do worry a lot about that particular friend.

Re: Never hose out a Honda Element

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Random FYI, but the article shows repairs using POR15 paint. It's pretty nasty to work with, and I highly recommend MasterSeries paint as an alternative: http://masterseriesct.com No affiliation, just learned the hard way with my 1960s VW Beetle.

Nasty how? I had no trouble using it the same way on my Z31.

It's really smelly, thick, shiney, and can peel off. The Masterseries is more like normal paint, looks better, and can be painted over as well. I found it a lot easier to work with.

Re: Never hose out a Honda Element

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I like the idea but it seems like a sorta random use case for a home.

There’s a reason lots of places require leak pans for washing machines, dishwashers, water heaters, and so on. It will eventually happen so it’s often best to prepare for it, especially if on a wood floor. Water damage is very bas for a structure.

I think a water alarm and auto shut off for things like that are better.

If you're building new I guess it is nice to have a drain, but I'm not sure it is worthwhile / the likelihood / utility is THAT high.

Re: Never hose out a Honda Element

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> How do you measure it - just frequency response and power draw? Same way you measure any other high end consumer good: price

I submit that a better measure of high end audio equipment is weight. Top end gear is HEAVY.

To be specific, top end gear has heavy torroidal inductors and transformers to keep the current flowing.

Re: Never hose out a Honda Element

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I don't get it - would you would think you can hose out a consumer car like this, with the fabric seats and all that plastic trim? I've hosed out Land Rovers, but they're clearly an off-road vehicle designed for wading.

Back in the early 2000s car dealers were trying to sell it on the fact you could hose it out. No rational car person would actually considered it since under the rubber-maid flooring was normal padding. If the padding wasn't there the car would be just too loud.

Re: Never hose out a Honda Element

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In 2003/2004, when the Element was initially marketed to the US market, I specifically recall seeing ads that indicated I could do such. Nearly bought one for that reason. Bought a Civic SI instead.

Well, and it's hard to beat a Civic Si for fun driving, if that's your thing. (2009 here!)

For fun driving, just remember the acronym M.I.A.T.A.

MIATA

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Always

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Re: Never hose out a Honda Element

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Having worked in "extreme terrain" conditions for much of my adult life, and now work my own farm, I completely disagree. You don't want to be spending significant portions of your day in a "stripped bare" platform. Maybe thats ok for a couple of hours rock crawling twice a month (not that I would call that extreme terrain!), but not for any actual utility.

Why is this, what features give you value ?

Heated and massaging seats, auto deploying running boards and tailgate step for your aching back

360 degree camera for maneuvering in tight spaces

110V outlet for charging tools

Sunroof you can stick your head out of to get a higher vantage point

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