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Facebook paid Republican strategy firm to malign TikTok

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Re: Facebook paid Republican strategy firm to malign TikTok

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In case you think this is some esoteric issue involving kids’ stuff — keep in mind that the founder of TikTok was one of the most balanced voices within China, who argued that the country needed to engage with the West in a healthier manner. Zuckerberg et al and their incessant lobbying for that TikTok ban basically vaporized that guy’s pull within China, which eliminated a super-valuable asset for the West. So, yeah…

I won't pretend to know all of the details but this comes off as kind of conspiracy-theory. Why is Zuckerberg the boogieman? He just wants to run his company well and get as many eyeballs on paid advertisements as possible... right? Why is there some notion that he wants to push either a liberal or conservative agenda internationally? It's near impossible to moderate a billion people posting crap on a social media pl…

Conspiracy theory? He did everything in his power to get liberals into political power.

Yes he is a very large threat to Western society, the United States of America and world peace. The current state of affairs should be the proof anyone needs.

Re: Facebook paid Republican strategy firm to malign TikTok

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post #193

In case you think this is some esoteric issue involving kids’ stuff — keep in mind that the founder of TikTok was one of the most balanced voices within China, who argued that the country needed to engage with the West in a healthier manner. Zuckerberg et al and their incessant lobbying for that TikTok ban basically vaporized that guy’s pull within China, which eliminated a super-valuable asset for the West. So, yeah…

> Facebook continues to be the single greatest threat to Western society outside of Russia.

No it’s not. The greatest threat to any society is its own ineptitude.

Re: Facebook paid Republican strategy firm to malign TikTok

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post #193

In case you think this is some esoteric issue involving kids’ stuff — keep in mind that the founder of TikTok was one of the most balanced voices within China, who argued that the country needed to engage with the West in a healthier manner. Zuckerberg et al and their incessant lobbying for that TikTok ban basically vaporized that guy’s pull within China, which eliminated a super-valuable asset for the West. So, yeah…

"Facebook continues to be the single greatest threat to Western society outside of Russia" This is ridiculous hyperbole. And TikTok, as a Chinese company whereupon they can be compelled to do the bidding of the CCP at any time, in whatever terms, remains problematic. It doesn't matter what the 'founder' thinks.

Do you apply this logic to all companies not in the US? Do you worry that the American Honda Motor Company is a sleeper cell for Japanese state interests?

Re: Facebook paid Republican strategy firm to malign TikTok

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

>What is a "Republican strategy firm?" A consulting firm that advertises itself as being "born from political campaigns" and being "right of center." Both things on the second slide of their homepage.

>Stagwell, formerly The Stagwell Group, is a global marketing and communications group. Founded in 2015 by Mark Penn. >Penn was a chief strategist and pollster in the Hillary Clinton 2008 presidential campaign

And further in Mark Penn's Wikipedia article

>Penn met with Trump in February and November 2019 to give him advice on his 2020 re-election strategy.

The company claims to be right wing, why would you deny it?

Re: Facebook paid Republican strategy firm to malign TikTok

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post #234

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Facebook continues to be the single greatest threat to Western society outside of Russia" This is ridiculous hyperbole. And TikTok, as a Chinese company whereupon they can be compelled to do the bidding of the CCP at any time, in whatever terms, remains problematic. It doesn't matter what the 'founder' thinks.

Do you apply this logic to all companies not in the US? Do you worry that the American Honda Motor Company is a sleeper cell for Japanese state interests?

oh my. are we equating Japan with China?

Re: Facebook paid Republican strategy firm to malign TikTok

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Many commenters here have pointed out this is the norm. I'll also point out that most companies fail, and many of the ones that don't fail are despised by their customers/users. What can we say of the companies that succeed and aren't despised? They typically don't do shit like this. The other problem with thinking "this is what everybody does" is there's the unstated "so keep your mouth shut and just go along with i…

I spent five years at Facebook, and it was probably the best place I've ever worked. The people were fantastic (except a the ex G and Amazon folks who were a lot less fun to work with), the problems were fun and the culture and tools were phenomenal. Granted, I don't agree with what they're doing in this article, but if you think they're the only big tech company that does this, I have a bunch of bridges to sell you…

Can I ask what kind of problems you enjoyed working on there?

Re: Facebook paid Republican strategy firm to malign TikTok

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post #193

In case you think this is some esoteric issue involving kids’ stuff — keep in mind that the founder of TikTok was one of the most balanced voices within China, who argued that the country needed to engage with the West in a healthier manner. Zuckerberg et al and their incessant lobbying for that TikTok ban basically vaporized that guy’s pull within China, which eliminated a super-valuable asset for the West. So, yeah…

> Facebook continues to be the single greatest threat to Western society outside of Russia.

this statement is both hyperbolic and naive at the same time.

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