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Re: Alcohol-related deaths spiked during the pandemic, a study shows
#232Right before the first lockdown I started a new high stress job and for several months our two toddlers weren't allowed to attend school. During the first few weeks we tried to make it "fun", I'd start working around 4-5AM , alternating morning and evening shifts of work / toddlers with my partner. Then colleagues started complaining "wtf this guy's playing with his kids in the park at 2PM" and I got really bad feedb…
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#233Earlier quoted context omitted.
For some reason we, as a society, have decided certain health problems are moral failures to be treated with shame and cured through willpower alone rather than modern medical intervention.
I don't know about shame or moral failure, but alcoholism is obviously different from cancer or a broken leg in that you can control it yourself, even if it might be very hard for some. A lot of other conditions also benefit from a more holistic approach, things like obesity, heart problems etc are easy to prevent, hard to cure.
I don’t think it’s “obviously different”. A generation ago people said the same thing about depression and suicidal ideation: you can control it yourself. Just be happy.
It’s a lovely sentiment for those of us who don’t suffer from it because it makes us feel like we are immune from the problem. It could never happen to us because we have the mental fortitude to overcome it. It’s a nice thought but it’s nonsense.
Re: Alcohol-related deaths spiked during the pandemic, a study shows
#234I notice that "the pandemic" is quickly found as the root cause and no analysis at all is done to identify if the response to the pandemic is to be implicated as well. I'd wager that waking up one day and discovering that one's job is not essential might be stressful. Being forbidden from going to the beaches and parks might have contributed. The stress of learned helplessness from countless bureaucratic decisions la…
As long as we're pushing preferred narratives (in your case: public health measures = bad), maybe it's because hospitals and treatment rooms were full of unvaccinated individuals and people who declined to social-distance or wear masks, preventing alcoholics in distress from getting the acute treatments they need. Certainly a lot of cancer patients died that way[1][2][3][4][5].
I know a lot of people who took advantage of the pandemic to sort out their lives, including getting sober. Public health authorities from day 1 were taking into account the affects of lockdowns on mental health, thankfully following the evolving science instead of internet conspiracy theories.
[1] https://khn.org/news/article/covid-overwhelmed-hospitals-pos...
[2] https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/08/21/how-unvac...
[3] https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-12-20/covid-19...
[4] https://www.breastcancer.org/managing-life/staying-well-duri...
[5] https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2022-01-20/hospital...
Re: Alcohol-related deaths spiked during the pandemic, a study shows
#235I notice that "the pandemic" is quickly found as the root cause and no analysis at all is done to identify if the response to the pandemic is to be implicated as well. I'd wager that waking up one day and discovering that one's job is not essential might be stressful. Being forbidden from going to the beaches and parks might have contributed. The stress of learned helplessness from countless bureaucratic decisions la…
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Re: Alcohol-related deaths spiked during the pandemic, a study shows
#236Right before the first lockdown I started a new high stress job and for several months our two toddlers weren't allowed to attend school. During the first few weeks we tried to make it "fun", I'd start working around 4-5AM , alternating morning and evening shifts of work / toddlers with my partner. Then colleagues started complaining "wtf this guy's playing with his kids in the park at 2PM" and I got really bad feedb…
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#237Earlier quoted context omitted.
"A lot of them won't accept you..." There are tons of religions out there. You have to find one that works for you. Atheist? Join an atheist group. There are options.
Again, though, you are pressing religions. I've looked, and I'm not willing to change myself for a religion. Kinda by definition, atheist groups aren't religious groups. I'm from Indiana: How many atheist groups do you think are in a town of 3,000? or 50,000? You know, in person spaces. I'm no longer in Indiana, but I no longer share a native tongue with locals and religion isn't a big thing here. I'd just go and get…
"Kinda by definition, atheist groups aren't religious groups."
Kind of by definition they could be. There is still debate by scholars as to what defines a religion. But something as simple as shared beliefs and world view can meet that definition, especially if it deals with the presence or absence of rituals or objects related to supernatural beliefs.
"you are pressing religions."
Nope. Follow the comments back. I'm not pressing people to get into a religion. I'm merely clarifying why AA includes religion - for the sense of community.
Re: Alcohol-related deaths spiked during the pandemic, a study shows
#238Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think psychlops suggests seeing the pandemic as a catalyst rather than the cause.
So introducing a catalyst to a stable reaction and then not attributing the increased reaction rates to the catalyst...
You’re coming across like you’re trying to miss the point. The entire article is attributing increased reaction rates to the pandemic.
Re: Alcohol-related deaths spiked during the pandemic, a study shows
#239I drank so much during the first few months of the pandemic that I had to give up drinking altogether. The hangovers and mood swings from drinking regularly were too much and just not worth it for me. I love booze but I didnt drink until I was in my mid 20's so it was easyish for me to stop. I imagine a lot of people were on the edge of very dangerous drinking habits and this pushed them over the edge.
Re: Alcohol-related deaths spiked during the pandemic, a study shows
#240I notice that "the pandemic" is quickly found as the root cause and no analysis at all is done to identify if the response to the pandemic is to be implicated as well. I'd wager that waking up one day and discovering that one's job is not essential might be stressful. Being forbidden from going to the beaches and parks might have contributed. The stress of learned helplessness from countless bureaucratic decisions la…
As long as we're pushing preferred narratives (in your case: public health measures = bad), maybe it's because hospitals and treatment rooms were full of unvaccinated individuals and people who declined to social-distance or wear masks, preventing alcoholics in distress from getting the acute treatments they need. Certainly a lot of cancer patients died that way[1][2][3][4][5]. I know a lot of people who took advanta…
None of my experience matches this account. The last paragraph is laughably perpendicular, in fact.
I don’t think we can solve that here, but it’s interesting how people can end up seeing things so differently.