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Why are young people having so little sex? (2018)

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Re: Why are young people having so little sex? (2018)

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It's burying the lede to suggest that young people are having less sex. The salient fact is that it's young men who are skewing this average down. Women, on average, are doing perfectly fine in the sexual marketplace, along with the top 10-15% of men. edit: The above was my reflexive response to the headline. Now that I've actually read the article, I have to say that the article is very good and quite comprehensive,…

Wait, how is that even mathematically possible? Most people are heterosexual and there is roughly the same number of men and women. Are you saying that there is a small cohort of men that have sex with most of the women? I find it hard to believe — most people, men and women, are monogamous.

This wouldn't be so strange, pareto distributions are everywhere. Apparently this could be the case in Tinder, if we believe this Tweet [0]

[0] https://mobile.twitter.com/quillette/status/1105679979256389...

Re: Why are young people having so little sex? (2018)

#232
post #14

It's burying the lede to suggest that young people are having less sex. The salient fact is that it's young men who are skewing this average down. Women, on average, are doing perfectly fine in the sexual marketplace, along with the top 10-15% of men. edit: The above was my reflexive response to the headline. Now that I've actually read the article, I have to say that the article is very good and quite comprehensive,…

Wait, how is that even mathematically possible? Most people are heterosexual and there is roughly the same number of men and women. Are you saying that there is a small cohort of men that have sex with most of the women? I find it hard to believe — most people, men and women, are monogamous.

> I find it hard to believe — most people, men and women, are monogamous.

You are forgetting the 4th dimension.

Re: Why are young people having so little sex? (2018)

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> the added energy will definitely also make men more willing to do the hunt You know this sounds creepy right? Misogynistic? Women are more than trophies to be won in a hunt. They're people, just like you and I.

Well, this is only in the context of courtship, which is _inherently_ sexually polarizing. You most _definitely should not_ bring this view into the work place. In that case you are in your right to call is misogynistic. And this comment is also a prime example of the derailment that leads to the vanilla meeting between the genders. (I expect people to be able the read "masculine core" for men and "feminine core" for…

Treating people as trophies to be won is the problem. And yes, seeing it, as a man, as a pure hinting exercise misogynistic. Also contra productive.

Re: Why are young people having so little sex? (2018)

#234
post #20

I work with a very large-scale UK survey that roughly covers the boomer generation: people born 1940-1970. Take a moment to guess the median lifetime number of sexual partners. . . . It's 3. Other people have less sex than you think.

I'm really skeptical that holds up on the later part of that interval.

Re: Why are young people having so little sex? (2018)

#235

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, this is only in the context of courtship, which is _inherently_ sexually polarizing. You most _definitely should not_ bring this view into the work place. In that case you are in your right to call is misogynistic. And this comment is also a prime example of the derailment that leads to the vanilla meeting between the genders. (I expect people to be able the read "masculine core" for men and "feminine core" for…

Treating people as trophies to be won is the problem. And yes, seeing it, as a man, as a pure hinting exercise misogynistic. Also contra productive.

This feels like a rather uncharitable interpretation. Entering into in an exclusive relationship with someone means you have come out ahead of other potential "competitors" and are able to claim the reward: access to the elevated relationship with the said individual, and not necessarily the individual themselves.

Do you also take issue with the phrases like "How to win his heart" or "You need to win her over"?

Re: Why are young people having so little sex? (2018)

#236
post #207

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Yep. Some 40% of people between the ages of 23-50 live with their parents in US(according to wsj)

Could you please provide some source? I find this really hard to believe. Quick googling led me to some articles about growing ratio of _young_ adults (16 - 23) living with their parents, nothing about adults.

Not the OP, but:

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/09/04/a-majority-...

18- to 29-year-olds living with their parents was 46 before the pandemic, up to 52% now. Although it is more a regression to the mean, historically.

Re: Why are young people having so little sex? (2018)

#237

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, this is only in the context of courtship, which is _inherently_ sexually polarizing. You most _definitely should not_ bring this view into the work place. In that case you are in your right to call is misogynistic. And this comment is also a prime example of the derailment that leads to the vanilla meeting between the genders. (I expect people to be able the read "masculine core" for men and "feminine core" for…

Treating people as trophies to be won is the problem. And yes, seeing it, as a man, as a pure hinting exercise misogynistic. Also contra productive.

You called women trophies, they didn't. You can hunt for a job etc, it is a general term for when you put in effort towards finding/getting something.

Re: Why are young people having so little sex? (2018)

#239
post #146

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>This younger generation simply has to work more. The data does not back that assertion up, at all. >Honestly having sex more than 1-2 times in a single week is exhausting. Well, that's a problem. Sex is supposed to be reinvigorating, not exhausting.

> The data does not back that assertion up, at all. Median home prices are accelerating in their annual price increase with a significant uptrend beginning on the mid- to late '90s. This represents a significant percentage of personal budgets, and those who are on the margins will be pushed out without increasing their income. It is an assertion on your part that there is no data.

You made the assertion that people are working more now leading to them being too exhausted for sex, which is false. Your reply then switched to increasing housing prices, not hours worked. Average hours worked have not gone up - https://clockify.me/working-hours

Re: Why are young people having so little sex? (2018)

#240

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, this is only in the context of courtship, which is _inherently_ sexually polarizing. You most _definitely should not_ bring this view into the work place. In that case you are in your right to call is misogynistic. And this comment is also a prime example of the derailment that leads to the vanilla meeting between the genders. (I expect people to be able the read "masculine core" for men and "feminine core" for…

Treating people as trophies to be won is the problem. And yes, seeing it, as a man, as a pure hinting exercise misogynistic. Also contra productive.

> the added energy will definitely also make men more willing to do the hunt

Perhaps it is you with your interpretation that is misogynistic. The person was writing focusing on men, but both men and women are on the hunt for a compatible partner with which they could build a fulfilling relationship.

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