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Re: MonoLisa – A font designed for developers

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Oh, this was a new one for me. In case you like narrow but Victor’s not your thing, I can enthusiastically point you towards Iosevka. (That’s also available in Victor’s comparison picker. Nice!)

I love both Iosevka and Victor Mono, but ended using Victor Mono because it has script version for italics.

That's exactly the thing I hate about it. Base font is good, but god, the script!

Re: MonoLisa – A font designed for developers

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Unfortunately not available to compare on https://www.programmingfonts.org/ While I'm here: Victor Mono has been my programming font of choice for a while now: https://rubjo.github.io/victor-mono/ Oh, look at that, the Victor Mono homepage has a font comparison slider that allows you to compare it to MonoLisa! MonoLisa advertises that it's wider than other monospace fonts, and you can really see that in the compariso…

I don't know why anyone would even bother to even go beyond the first item on the list. Such beauty, such elegant geometry, such timeless classic lines. Truly an elegant font for a more civilized time. https://www.programmingfonts.org/#font3270 BTW, I'm also a huge fan of Luxi Mono, but I edit it and add a dot in the middle of the zero to make it different from the O. I like it because it reminds me a bit of the Sun…

It's a good font for those that think that the world and computer technology peaked in 1971. I don't share that opinion.

Re: MonoLisa – A font designed for developers

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On the topic of fonts: If your font of choice has it, try using the medium weight as the "normal" weight in your editor — I've found I prefer it to the regular weight with most fonts. I started doing this after noticing that the default Xcode font is SF Mono Medium .

I thought I was the only one doing this :P It definitely helps at smaller sizes, narrow fonts like MonoLisa simply become too faint to read easily otherwise

Re: MonoLisa – A font designed for developers

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I am the only one who finds fonts a bit expensive for personal use? It is not a rant, I am not saying it isn't worth it, that font designers can't make money, etc... But that puts it on the same level as tools like Sublime Text or Beyond Compare. For me, it is enough of a turn off not to use a commercial font, especially considering that the free offering is quite good. I totally understand the higher price for comme…

Selling font direct to consumers is extremely bad business model. This doesn’t work. People are not keen on shelling out 100s of dollars when IDEs already come with decent fonts and other thousands of free fonts readily available. This font looks great but most people would argue about marginal benefit. I would hope they would partner with IDE makers and big tech and give them license to use it for their expected rev…

I also think creators of this font likely have not performed any market testing or studied price-revenue curves. I might take a bet that $5 flat price would produce higher revenues. Another option for them is to bundle many such fonts by forming group with other creators together. That has higher chance of selling a professional fonts as package to IDE makers and big tech.

Re: MonoLisa – A font designed for developers

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Unfortunately not available to compare on https://www.programmingfonts.org/ While I'm here: Victor Mono has been my programming font of choice for a while now: https://rubjo.github.io/victor-mono/ Oh, look at that, the Victor Mono homepage has a font comparison slider that allows you to compare it to MonoLisa! MonoLisa advertises that it's wider than other monospace fonts, and you can really see that in the compariso…

Another site for comparing fonts is the excellent https://devfonts.gafi.dev/. This also doesn't have MonoLisa, though.

Re: MonoLisa – A font designed for developers

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Please stop it with the "coding ligatures" already. They are not helpful and only serve to obscure the code being written. This has got to be one of my least favourite trends in programming aesthetics these days. For a font claiming to "follow function" to devote so much effort to sacrificing function for the _vogue du jour_ is especially rich.

A ligature is more functional than not using one. They obscure the code for about 5 seconds the first time you see them, and then never again. After those 5 seconds, you register a new semantic symbol in the brain. It is objectively easier for your brain to parse a single arrow symbol than it is to parse => in a monospace font. For the latter, you are scanning two symbols and only after seeing them both can your brai…

> It is objectively easier for your brain to parse a single arrow symbol than it is to parse => in a monospace font. For the latter, you are scanning two symbols and only after seeing them both can your brain put them together into a semantic meaning.

Brain is really good in parallel processing of letters/symbols as units. I very much doubt that it's "objectively better". See https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/typography/develop/word-rec... for overview of the research in this area.

For me the problem with ligatures is not so much of recognizing them but reproducing. I know that for arrow ligature I have to have = and >, but there may be ligatures that I might not be sure of how they're formed. Also, when reading the same code in different environment where the same font is not available I get different visual output where not only is the base shape of the letters different but code units as well. For example three lined equals ligature that some fonts produce. I really hate it.

Re: MonoLisa – A font designed for developers

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Please stop it with the "coding ligatures" already. They are not helpful and only serve to obscure the code being written. This has got to be one of my least favourite trends in programming aesthetics these days. For a font claiming to "follow function" to devote so much effort to sacrificing function for the _vogue du jour_ is especially rich.

I wonder if there’s a correlation between enthusiasm for ligatures and programming styles or languages.

I want to learn Julia in part because it makes use of “fancy” chatacters (so your math looks like math). I like the more functional JS style, and I’m interested in haskell. And I love ligatures. Anedata of one.

Are you more a C-family person, or an ML-family person?

Re: MonoLisa – A font designed for developers

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Unfortunately not available to compare on https://www.programmingfonts.org/ While I'm here: Victor Mono has been my programming font of choice for a while now: https://rubjo.github.io/victor-mono/ Oh, look at that, the Victor Mono homepage has a font comparison slider that allows you to compare it to MonoLisa! MonoLisa advertises that it's wider than other monospace fonts, and you can really see that in the compariso…

I don't know why anyone would even bother to even go beyond the first item on the list. Such beauty, such elegant geometry, such timeless classic lines. Truly an elegant font for a more civilized time. https://www.programmingfonts.org/#font3270 BTW, I'm also a huge fan of Luxi Mono, but I edit it and add a dot in the middle of the zero to make it different from the O. I like it because it reminds me a bit of the Sun…

I'm a huge fan of that font, it looks great and there's a Nerd Font version of it available.
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