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Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes

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Re: Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes

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Post by zuminator »

qaq wrote: post #136

I think this will lead to outcome that few people cheering for this are anticipating. Musk, Thiel etc. will back an alternative platform that will host JRE, Lex, Jordan Peterson etc. and in the long term it will win due to being less restrictive. Which in the long term is prob a positive thing.

Rogan was already on less restrictive platforms, which was why those episodes were available to begin with. He chose to go on a potentially more restrictive site, in exchange for an immensely lucrative contract. I'm sure if someone offered Samuel L. Jackson $100 million to host a children's show (yes, I know) he would quite willingly hold his famously coarse tongue.

Also even if your prediction is correct, that's "less" restrictive, and still not completely open. There will always be rules because whoever's paying for the service, whether it be advertisers, subscribers, or billionaires, has a list of things they really don't want to hear.

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Post by waffle_maniac »

nomilk wrote: post #224

This is bigger than Spotify. Rogan was a proactive person conducting open research into the world around him. When proactive people investigate things and share their findings, it now only takes a few to dislike the findings, fuss, and have the findings removed. To those that support this, I have 4 questions: 1. Is disincentivising sharing knowledge really good for the world? 2. Is it reasonable to expect 100% of inq…

He has fringe people on his show to drive engagement. Fauci is not going to pay the bills.

Re: Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes

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Post by joecot »

ahmed_ds wrote: post #131

I think I speak for the majority of people here. Before the Spotify deal, you would just see couple of Joe Rogan clips on YouTube and you have sat through maybe 3-4 entire podcasts. You don't care much about MMA or you don't think comedians are that important/hypeworthy as the JRE fandom would claim. After the Spotify deal you just slowly stopped even seeing the clips because for some reason you just don't care to se…

On the other hand as a male in my 30s spotify recommends Joe Rogan and Jorden Peterson to me approximately every 5 minutes.

Re: Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes

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Post by browningstreet »

dtemp wrote: post #184
ahmed_ds wrote: post #131

I think I speak for the majority of people here. Before the Spotify deal, you would just see couple of Joe Rogan clips on YouTube and you have sat through maybe 3-4 entire podcasts. You don't care much about MMA or you don't think comedians are that important/hypeworthy as the JRE fandom would claim. After the Spotify deal you just slowly stopped even seeing the clips because for some reason you just don't care to se…

When I heard of JRE many years ago, I said to myself, "do I care to hear the endless opinions of the former host of Fear Factor? Nope." And that was that, never even decided to give it a try with so much other potential content available.

Pretty reductionist. He made himself a success in more than one industry. And you haven’t listened to him. So what qualifies your opinion of him more than his opinion about anything?

Re: Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes

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Post by philliphaydon »

voisin wrote: post #193
mrobins wrote: post #178

One of the ironic things here is that it’s pitted Spotify’s brand as a music company against their brand as a podcast company. For people originally drawn to Spotify as a music service the departure of even a few icons all of a sudden makes Apple Music very attractive.

I switched from Spotify to Apple Music fairly recently and I am still shocked on the daily how poorly built Apple Music is. In the several years I subscribed to Spotify I never had issues of content not loading or choppiness in the playback, but with Apple Music it is nearly every day. The only thing Apple Music has going for it over Spotify (in my opinion) is that the recommendations are easily 10x better for discov…

Wow I moved from Spotify to Apple about… 6 months ago? My experience has been better than Spotify. Searching in the olddddd Spotify apple (pre electron days) worked so well. But then they broke it when moving to electron and never fixed it.

Re: Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes

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Post by bachmeier »

Predictably, people break out the C-word. Every business decides what they sell and what they don't. Do they also complain about censorship and shout at the manager of a shoe store for not selling books? Spotify decided they don't want to sell those episodes of JR. That's not censorship, it's business, and it's very different than if it's done by the government.

Re: Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes

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Post by nomilk »

waffle_maniac wrote: post #232
nomilk wrote: post #224

This is bigger than Spotify. Rogan was a proactive person conducting open research into the world around him. When proactive people investigate things and share their findings, it now only takes a few to dislike the findings, fuss, and have the findings removed. To those that support this, I have 4 questions: 1. Is disincentivising sharing knowledge really good for the world? 2. Is it reasonable to expect 100% of inq…

He has fringe people on his show to drive engagement. Fauci is not going to pay the bills.

Sure, but:

1. Lots of correct scientific ideas were considered outright heretical (not just merely fringe), prior to mainstream acceptance. If you exclude 'fringe' ideas, you exclude the bad ones and the good ones.

2. People who get duped will simply stop listening. Example: This week I was duped by a youtuber, and will never rely on that source again [1].

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30137025

Re: Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes

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Post by bachmeier »

joecot wrote: post #233
ahmed_ds wrote: post #131

I think I speak for the majority of people here. Before the Spotify deal, you would just see couple of Joe Rogan clips on YouTube and you have sat through maybe 3-4 entire podcasts. You don't care much about MMA or you don't think comedians are that important/hypeworthy as the JRE fandom would claim. After the Spotify deal you just slowly stopped even seeing the clips because for some reason you just don't care to se…

On the other hand as a male in my 30s spotify recommends Joe Rogan and Jorden Peterson to me approximately every 5 minutes.

I can't watch a YouTube video without getting a JP recommendation.
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