This must be some kind of commentary on the uselessness of NFTs, surely. They can't really be that stupid?
Any sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from performance art.
Fantastic turn of phrase. Hanlon's Razor + Clarke's Third Law
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#232For most of human history, people have lived in small, local information bubbles which were hard to penetrate with facts from the outside world. We see this manifest as the pre-industrial global patchwork of weird and wonderful religious/spiritual/cultural variety. Then somehow the world started to join up and information began to seep into local cultures and sweep away a lot of these pre-rational beliefs. And for a…
I think a lot about the issues you have touched on here. What you refer to as, "reality-defiance", I call, "knowledge immunity".
Long story short, by my estimation what has "arrested this direction of travel" and "reinstated local bubbles of thought" is fear, the mind killer, and where they've headed, is back into superstition, global superstition, where they substitute whatever comfortable story, for whatever uncomfortable reality.
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#233Earlier quoted context omitted.
What happens if you upload copyright protected data in cleartext on a blockchain without having the distribution rights?
You can't really put content on the blockchain, that costs a surprising amount because of all the proof-of-waste. What happens is people put the content on a host and the URL on the blockchain. I suppose in theory it could be kept in IPFS, but few NFTs seem to bother with that.
I naively always thought NFT's live on the actual block chain. That is the only thing that made them interesting to me.
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#235So many conversations here and on Twitter focus on laughing at these people. But I think the most likely explanation is that they’re not this stupid. That it’s some form of fraud.
Are you familiar with Hanlon's razor?
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#236I made the mistake of diving a bit deeper into the group who bought it and found a proposal where they are talking about literally burning the book they just bought after digitizing it for … reasons I guess [0] At this point I just hope its some sort of practical joke or whatever because this just seems a bit much. [0] https://forum.spicedao.xyz/t/nft-of-the-book-w-proof-of-jpeg...
Fuck me, they’re talking about using JPEG as an archival format before destroying the original. What is going on here.
Yeah of all of the NFT silliness, this one takes the cake for me. I can just imagine the screams from historians and archivists.
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#237Earlier quoted context omitted.
[Q] Do we really want to be perceived as book burners? [A] Tbh I don’t care too much what a bunch of normies that probably didn’t even know the book existed think. The book would still exist but digitized and in the blockchain. [Q] Why not just use Arweave, IPFS, and a variety of other long-term digital preservation strategies? All of them are less expensive and resource-intensive. IPFS is not permanent. If it stops…
I wonder how crunchy the jpeg quality needs to be for this to be viable. A crude back of the envelope calculation after some googling would put the storage price on Ethereum at around 3.5eth per mb. So that would be around 10k€ per mb. Certainly doable if they like burning money, but likely not at archival quality.
"Crunchy jpeg" reminded me of this scene https://youtu.be/EklmUZF6lm0?t=220
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#238Earlier quoted context omitted.
Perhaps it will be a series inspired by the book (the physical object) not the contents/story They could release a series about overpaying for a copy of dune at auction and technically fulfill their mission
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jodorowsky%27s_Dune
> Salvador Dalí was set to play the Emperor and claimed he wanted to be the highest-paid actor in Hollywood history. He asked for $100,000 per hour to act in the movie. Jodorowsky accepted, but then reduced the Emperor’s scenes so that Dalí would be needed for no more than one hour with the rest of his lines spoken by a robotic lookalike. Dalí accepted on condition that the plastic lookalike was donated to his museum, and that his throne was to be a toilet made up of two intersected dolphins.
Absolutely incredible.
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#239This story is misinformation. It is a shame that so many are upvoting and spilling vitriol without properly vetting the information. In fact, the winners of the book auction do understand that they do not own the intellectual property. They have a goal of using their remaining funds to acquire the intellectual property. See https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/amansethi/spicedao-dune... : > As things stand, Saqib sti…
> the winners of the book auction do understand that they do not own the intellectual property Then maybe when they wrote We won the auction for €2.66M. Now our mission is to: 1. Make the book public (to the extent permitted by law) 2. Produce an original animated limited series inspired by the book and sell it to a streaming service they could have been more explicit about how #2 is as unlikely as it was before they…
On their official Medium account they are explicit about the fact that winning the auction has no direct legal effects on their ability to produce the animated series. [1]. Their goal is to leverage the publicity from the auction to open doors for discussions with the current IP holders in order to make progress on the animated series.
[1] https://medium.com/@spicedao/roadmap-timeline-ae319c92505d
Re: €2.6M spent for a book at auction, believed they would own the IP
#240For most of human history, people have lived in small, local information bubbles which were hard to penetrate with facts from the outside world. We see this manifest as the pre-industrial global patchwork of weird and wonderful religious/spiritual/cultural variety. Then somehow the world started to join up and information began to seep into local cultures and sweep away a lot of these pre-rational beliefs. And for a…
Neal Stephenson explored this in this book Fall; or, Dodge in Hell (And to a lesser extent, Termination Shock). In this depiction, parts of the world; especially red state USA, has succumbed to a post-truth society, made possible through the internet. The narrator implies that we had a limited window in human history where people took a fact-based approach to knowledge, starting with the scientific revolution, and ending with internet circa ~2010.
Examining mainly the pre-truth half, Carl Sagan goes into this in Demon Haunted world, and focuses on remnants that have stuck around, eg UFOs, cults etc.