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Re: The UX on this small child is terrible

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Post by hluska » Wed, Jan 05, 2022, 2:27 AM UTC

na85 wrote: post #185

hluska wrote: post #157

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I have a 2016 model. You're in for a wonderful year - enjoy every second of it!! :)

Nice, have you found a way to suppress the "sass" function? Is there a patch or something? I mean sometimes I feel like mine is a much older model in a small casing.

"Sass" seems to be a critical component of the operating system. That process runs unless my model is asleep or needs a doctor. Have you heard of the sass-back algorithm? Don't let it run constantly because it loses its impact, but you can always pull it out when you need the sassing to just stop....

function sass-back (sass): return sass

I'm not sure why, but sass-back seems to put sass into a panic. It temporarily stops all system output while it tries to restart and initiates "stare".

Re: The UX on this small child is terrible

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Post by lukevp » Wed, Jan 05, 2022, 2:33 AM UTC

BenjiWiebe wrote: post #160

quartesixte wrote: post #147

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> children won't eat grownup food so you should offer something else. Having grown up in an immigrant household where the children’s plate is just a smaller version of the adult plate, is this a thing in American households? The kids eat an entirely separate meal-course from the adults? I know baby food is processed but once a kid gets teeth, they’re just given what the adults eat. My grandmother would have banish fr…

Speaking for myself (American/Midwest), I've never seen nor experienced children getting a separate menu than the adults. Well, except for eating out, I guess. And even then an adult sharing with a child is not that rare.

I am genuinely confused by this phrasing. Are you saying that there are many situations where children and adults are receiving menus for food but are not “eating out”?

Re: The UX on this small child is terrible

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Post by didip » Wed, Jan 05, 2022, 2:35 AM UTC

My primary complaint is that the machine learning model not only took forever to train, has too many hyperparameters, but also has too many fail cases.

It also comes with almost no defaults. Self preservation algo is non existent from the beginning.

That said, OTA upgrade is the best I have ever seen in any systems. From speak nothing to tornado of words in just 1-2 nights.

Re: The UX on this small child is terrible

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Post by tkgally » Wed, Jan 05, 2022, 2:40 AM UTC

cookie_monsta wrote: post #89

I have a slightly ageing model (my co-developer is adamant there will be no upgrades, please do not suggest) and my problem is that it appears to have defaulted to ICT time (we are at GMT +11). I hear it performing operations well into the early morning, but booting from a cold start any earlier than 9am leads to all sorts of unexpected behaviour and system errors.

It sounds as though many of the commenters here are still trying to deal with the first-generation Small Child. My sympathies to all of you. A couple of years ago, I was fortunate to acquire a next-generation model, rebranded as Small Grandchild, and the UX is much superior. All of the troubleshooting and command-line interactions are handled by the Grown Child, who herself now has a reasonably good interface. For me, the UX of Small Grandchild is purely hug and play.

Re: The UX on this small child is terrible

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Post by syntaxfree » Wed, Jan 05, 2022, 2:44 AM UTC

hluska wrote: post #118

Karupan wrote: post #102

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Genuinely curious as a vegetarian: aren't vegetables considered a part of daily meals in your household? I've been asked this question by a couple of friends and in my experience, it depends on how the veggies are cooked (there are a million ways to make them tasty), and if the kids actually see adults eat veggies regularly.

I'm almost entirely plant based and despite this, my child will not go near a vegetable. It's reached a point where I use extra vegetables when I make stocks because she will eat soup, but only if it has meat and no visible vegetables. Putting extra vegetables in the stock likely accomplishes nothing but it makes me feel a little bit better. I've gone so far as to watch exotic cooking shows on YouTube with her to see…

I have a 9mo and we don’t cook usually so we’re feeding him industrialized baby foods (slowly introducing eggs, alphabet noodles, etc. His appetite is growing crazy fast and baby food isn’t cheap…)

What is “stock”?

Re: The UX on this small child is terrible

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Post by jasonhansel » Wed, Jan 05, 2022, 2:47 AM UTC

plaidfuji wrote: post #2

How do I get new features added to the roadmap? I’ve been asking for an “eat vegetables” interface without the “offer dessert in exchange” workaround for over a year, no response, yet in the same time frame I’ve seen things like “climb top-heavy bookshelf” and “unfurl entire toilet paper roll” deployed… who is asking for these features??

The refusal to eat vegetables is, in fact, a known regression introduced during a recent bugfix intended to prevent the intake of toxic plant matter. Not all models received the bugfix that causes this problem; unfortunately, for those affected, workarounds will continue to be necessary for the foreseeable future.

Re: The UX on this small child is terrible

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Post by m463 » Wed, Jan 05, 2022, 2:53 AM UTC

I believe the child is the user, and the user interface being operated is that of the parents and other nearby adults.

Re: The UX on this small child is terrible

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Post by jessaustin » Wed, Jan 05, 2022, 2:58 AM UTC

na85 wrote: post #120

cpursley wrote: post #28

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Can somebody explain the "won't eat vegetables" thing? The only place I've heard about this being in issue is in America.

Honestly I think it's just cultural. Parents inadvertently pass it on, or the kids get it from their peers. My daughter ate olives, Brussels sprouts, lettuce, cabbage, whatever really, from age 2 to 3. Now she's older and there's a bit of "asserting my independence" thing but she still loves Brussels sprouts.

Yes, pickiness is definitely passed on. The only children I know who insist on ridiculous "meals" of mac-n-cheese and chicken nuggets have at least one parent who also has no taste.

Re: The UX on this small child is terrible

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Post by jounker » Wed, Jan 05, 2022, 2:58 AM UTC

lukevp wrote: post #232

BenjiWiebe wrote: post #160

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Speaking for myself (American/Midwest), I've never seen nor experienced children getting a separate menu than the adults. Well, except for eating out, I guess. And even then an adult sharing with a child is not that rare.

I am genuinely confused by this phrasing. Are you saying that there are many situations where children and adults are receiving menus for food but are not “eating out”?

Menu also means the foods served at a meal.

Re: The UX on this small child is terrible

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Post by msgilligan » Wed, Jan 05, 2022, 2:58 AM UTC

cookie_monsta wrote: post #89

I have a slightly ageing model (my co-developer is adamant there will be no upgrades, please do not suggest) and my problem is that it appears to have defaulted to ICT time (we are at GMT +11). I hear it performing operations well into the early morning, but booting from a cold start any earlier than 9am leads to all sorts of unexpected behaviour and system errors.

You need to make a Use Case Diagram and further analyze the system. If you do this and properly understand the system, you will realize that you are the product and your UX is perfectly designed for the child who is the actual user in this system.