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Re: Playstation 5 root keys obtained

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Post by drexlspivey »

rich_sasha wrote: post #85

Given all the issues described in this thread, what is the upside of a game console (non-gamer)? Why not get a PC that you can automatically use for other things, can play games from any vendor etc (some of the issues mentioned in the thread). Are consoles cheaper “per transistor” or sth? If so, why? Is it about the vendor locking you in and charging more per game? That would seem even more skewed against the buyer:…

For me it’s the fact that you buy one and you know that all games will perform reasonably well for the next 5 or so years. A mediocre gaming pc now won’t be able to play the games that come out in 2027.

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Post by LinXitoW »

Cthulhu_ wrote: post #128
rich_sasha wrote: post #85

Given all the issues described in this thread, what is the upside of a game console (non-gamer)? Why not get a PC that you can automatically use for other things, can play games from any vendor etc (some of the issues mentioned in the thread). Are consoles cheaper “per transistor” or sth? If so, why? Is it about the vendor locking you in and charging more per game? That would seem even more skewed against the buyer:…

I plop down on my couch, pick up the controller, and it just works. Whereas on PC I have to go upstairs, usually switch out my work cables and keyboard/mouse, power up the thing, then fire up my game. Definitely less comfortable than the console experience, but on the other hand, there's games that just don't work on consoles (strategy, text-heavy games, etc). At the moment I play Sekiro on the console and FFXIV on t…

Just out of curiousity, have you tried things like game streaming? I've heard decent things for streaming games via Steam at least.

Re: Playstation 5 root keys obtained

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Post by GhettoComputers »

cyxxon wrote: post #144
rich_sasha wrote: post #85

Given all the issues described in this thread, what is the upside of a game console (non-gamer)? Why not get a PC that you can automatically use for other things, can play games from any vendor etc (some of the issues mentioned in the thread). Are consoles cheaper “per transistor” or sth? If so, why? Is it about the vendor locking you in and charging more per game? That would seem even more skewed against the buyer:…

The target group for consoles is people who for one thing want the thing to just work, and not have to fiddle with Windows update, drivers for their hardware, maintain Steam/EGS/UPlay/Origin/Gog/itch.io/Humble, and also not pay ridonculous prices for the latest RTX3080 or whatever is the graphics card these days. And this piece of hardware IS also cheaper than the equivalent PC (except right now with the chip shortag…

What was the last console you used? A PS2? These talking points would have been relevant 20 years ago, but they sadly aren’t the same ease of putting in your game and playing. Consoles are constantly updating their firmware, have annoyingly large mandatory game updates for online play, require you to pay for online (PS3 was a treasure, PC is usually free it isn’t monthly/yearly subscription unless you’re doing an MMO usually), and they’re basically just slower crappier PCs. Whats the point of bringing up the most expensive GPU, is that what most gamers have? Most gamers on Steam have a varient of a 1050 or 1060, originally a $140, and a $250-$300 card from 2016. https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/videocard/ You ignored PC exclusives too.

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Post by raxxorrax »

BasilPH wrote: post #100
rich_sasha wrote: post #85

Given all the issues described in this thread, what is the upside of a game console (non-gamer)? Why not get a PC that you can automatically use for other things, can play games from any vendor etc (some of the issues mentioned in the thread). Are consoles cheaper “per transistor” or sth? If so, why? Is it about the vendor locking you in and charging more per game? That would seem even more skewed against the buyer:…

Some great games are playstation exclusive, so if you want to play those, you have no other option. But the main reason for me is the controller: It's just so much better than any other controller I've connected to a PC. The back triggers have excellent force feedback and in some games the vibrations tell you on what type of surface you're walking. This might not count for XBox users, which can use the controller on…

To be fair, I think PC has probably more exclusive games than consoles by a very large margin. Not necessarily mainstream AAA games, but great ones nonetheless. It really depends on the types of games you play. Whether it is action adventures or games like Factorio, one system might be better suited for you or not.

Re: Playstation 5 root keys obtained

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Post by zeusk »

maccard wrote: post #199
zeusk wrote: post #183

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> you want to play a game on steam but your friend has bought it on the Microsoft store how do you play together? How do you voice chat? Both services support adding non platform games through their shortcut/executable. They also support voice chat for groups and players not in game. > What do you do when the Xbox services don't work when docker is installed? File a bug report? Or you just came up with some hypotheti…

> Both services support adding non platform games through their shortcut/executable. That only launches the game through the correct store. If the game doesn't implement cross play, you can't play together. > They also support voice chat for groups and players not in game. But you're trying to be in game with the person, and again if the game doesn't do in-game voice chat, you have to find alternatives. On a console…

PC games don’t need “cross play” FYI, you create a server and it is visible for anyone who purchased the game regardless of platform.

I haven’t used in game voice for more than a decade now. discord, teamspeak, steam chat, Xbox live all work well and are used by quite a lot of people.

Can’t comment on that single issue, but it does look like there was barely any information provided to repro the issue.

Re: Playstation 5 root keys obtained

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Post by formerly_proven »

hnlmorg wrote: post #25
solarkraft wrote: post #19

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But aren’t modern consoles generally pretty good PCs at comparatively low prices?

No. Consoles aren't good general computing devices. But they are good at specific domains of computing.

Why not? A PS5 or whatever the current Xbox is have pretty much the same I/O as a SFF PC. Bunch of USB, HDMI, maybe DisplayPort (?), Ethernet. They have enough memory in this generation (16+ GB) to be quite useful machines. And they have GPUs which are roughly equal to a midrange card. The PS5 even has a standard M.2 slot. They're really just an SFF PC with heavily locked down software.

Re: Playstation 5 root keys obtained

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Post by LinXitoW »

ratww wrote: post #138
perth wrote: post #102

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Not sure how true this is, but I've heard that Sony's PlayStation division is taking a hard hit from scalping, since they sell the consoles at a loss and scalpers don't buy games. So I wonder if this trend of selling consoles at a loss will continue in future generations.

This doesn't make sense. Unless the scalpers are hoarding consoles or using them for a purpose other than games (space heater? overpriced Netflix machine?), the consoles will get in the hands of a game buyer.

Well, paying more for the console may mean less money for games, or having wait may mean deciding on a different system or not having enough money may have the opposite effect of selling at a loss.

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Post by AshamedCaptain »

AussieWog93 wrote: post #22
rbanffy wrote: post #8

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That’s a clever business idea. Governments will usually demand you register a company in order to be able to legally export them.

>Governments will usually demand you register a company in order to be able to legally export them. Nah. As long as you don't sell many, you can get away with just marking as gift and putting a value of 20 USD on the package.

Aaaaand this is why now even "$20 gifts" have to pay import taxes at the EU entry customs.

Re: Playstation 5 root keys obtained

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Post by shocks »

hvidgaard wrote: post #173
stef25 wrote: post #140

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Attempted it several times, to run Plex etc. Remote control never works well. Having to keep a mouse & keyboard near the TV is a hassle. I'm sure it's perfectly possible but some people don't want another thing to configure and troubleshoot if that's their day job.

I don't think it's easy to communicate the "Just Works(tm)" aspect of it. Any amount of messing around for any reason is too much. No matter how hard I've seen anyone try, they cannot match the console in that aspect. Pick up the controller, press a button, and off you go. You might get your PC setup to do almost that, but it will require tinkering with keyboard and mouse to update OS and install games. It's not what…

> Pick up the controller, press a button, and off you go.

100% this.

It gets even better when you realise that modern consoles support sleep too. You can go from "off" to "exactly where you were last night" in a matter of seconds.

Re: Playstation 5 root keys obtained

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Post by skeaker »

dagmx wrote: post #44
8draco8 wrote: post #16

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This is the true reason that I feel like everybody are dancing around. Let's not lie to ourselves, hacking consoles in PS1, PS2 and DC era was for pirating games. Running unlicensed apps or linux was just a nice side effect of true goal. This days it's far less popular because of size, connectivity and prices of games.

In that era , for me, it was primarily to get around region encoding. We didn't officially have PlayStation in our country (India) at the time. The only way to get original games instead of pirated ones was to import, usually when a friend was traveling. But region locking was a curse. I'm so glad region locking is pretty much dead. I believe the 3DS was the last mainstream region locked console? Which again was ridi…

The 3DS also happens to have perhaps the most fruitful console homebrew scene in recent memory, having full on all-versions unpatchable exploits that are very simple to perform. I wonder if that's in some part the reason that Nintendo has moved away from region locking, given how absolutely trivial it was to bypass it on the 3DS.
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