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Re: Thank you, GitHub

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Post by peterdn »

BoorishBears wrote: post #193
e0a74c wrote: post #170

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have no dog in this race but it sounds like you're assuming that a sentence with a negative sentiment (whatever that actually means) must have been created by a person who's upset. A bit of a stretch, no?

A tongue-in-cheek reference to the fact HN users act like basic social skills like the ability to infer tone are voodoo gets dissected like this? You can't make up this stuff up. To the reply: > would not be acceptable in any social setting otherwise You're close to getting it! In a normal social setting if someone says "If you don't like X don't interact with it!" that can reasonably understood as a negative stateme…

> In a normal social setting if someone says "If you don't like X don't interact with it!" that can reasonably understood as a negative statement.

Except they didn't say that, did they? What they said verbatim was "simply do not read it" which is a much more reasonable tone than how you seemingly interpreted it.

Whether it's negative or not also depends on the context which in this case is a proposed solution to literally the most negative and upset-sounding post in this chain: the one that started it. What does your ML model think of "I'm gonna throw up on my keyboard"?

Re: Thank you, GitHub

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Post by jrochkind1 »

safaci2000 wrote: post #139

"GitHub Actions has become the #1 CI service, used by popular open source projects and enterprises alike." I must be missing something. For whatever reason GH Actions just never appealed to me. Am I missing something? I've used Drone IO more, granted it's better than travis but the #1 CI services seems like a stretch.

i assume he means #1 in usage (measurable) rather than in quality (an opinion, which he may also have, but which he probably wouldn't say as simply as "has become the #1").

When you say "seems like a stretch", I read it as you thinking he meant "quality, as a matter of opinion".

I would not be surprised if it's #1 in usage, getting there by being integrated in github and free and actually pretty darn good.

Re: Thank you, GitHub

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Post by Apocryphon »

kreeben wrote: post #226
jaywalk wrote: post #200

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No. Corporate speak is a specific way of speaking.

Will you agree with this? Corporate speak, definition: - to say what's in the best interest of the corporation, no matter what the circumstance - to not tell the truth, unless it's something that can become a huge PR success for the corporation - to not tell a lie, unless it's something that can become a huge PR success for the corporation For the "Musk speak" definition, simply replace "the corporation" with "Musk".

I think there's a specific "corporate style" of speaking that's very stiff and blandly positive, which is what they're thinking of when they're saying corporate speak. But I agree with your point and was making it, even though Musk speak is a different style, it ultimately works the same way as the corporate style, which is to buff up his brand in a way that maximizes shareholder value. Musk speak might not be the corporate style, but it's still a form of corporate speak, as per your definition.

Re: Thank you, GitHub

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Post by junon »

zaphar wrote: post #222
junon wrote: post #79

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Embrace, extend, extinguish still alive at MS it seems. E: Pointing out proven, explicitly-defined-in-internal-emails tactics used by Microsoft always seems to get downvoted on HN. Why? Would someone like to start a conversation?

Tactics that were true 20+ years ago are not necessarily still true today. The E E E trope is pithy and a shared cultural experience in our history. This does not immediately imply it is true now. You made no supporting argument as to why this announcement is an example of E E E. As such it contributed little to 0 content to the discussion. I suspect that is why you are getting downvoted in this instance.

I wasn't responding to the announcement. I responded to the comment above me.

Re: Thank you, GitHub

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Post by junon »

blackoil wrote: post #223
junon wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Embrace, extend, extinguish still alive at MS it seems. E: Pointing out proven, explicitly-defined-in-internal-emails tactics used by Microsoft always seems to get downvoted on HN. Why? Would someone like to start a conversation?

Context or Details!! What will they extinguish Github??

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace%2C_extend%2C_and_extin...

Re: Thank you, GitHub

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Post by junon »

est31 wrote: post #208
junon wrote: post #91

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Money is not the only part of any large acquisition such as GitHub. Given Microsoft's history, GitHub was the perfect acquisition for their goals.

Sure it was, and for MS there is definitely strategic value in owning Github. But I even if you factor in that strategic value, Github is not as important to Microsoft as, say, Instagram is to Facebook.

I don't see how that's relevant. Github is a huge asset to Microsoft, regardless of its revenue streams. That's my point.

Re: Thank you, GitHub

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Post by skinnymuch »

junon wrote: post #79
88913527 wrote: post #10

Is this a sign of the continued progression of GitHub to be further molded in Microsoft's image? Usually there's a churn in leadership when the alignment isn't there anymore, though it's typically accompanied by graceful public communication.

Embrace, extend, extinguish still alive at MS it seems. E: Pointing out proven, explicitly-defined-in-internal-emails tactics used by Microsoft always seems to get downvoted on HN. Why? Would someone like to start a conversation?

What are they extinguishing? Which things do you think they extended?

Pointing out stuff from decades ago doesn’t really count as still proven tactics.

Though of course all major companies do behave and do things like EEE in different ways.

Re: Thank you, GitHub

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Post by rarkins »

ya3r wrote: post #220

Nat was a great CEO. The best that could have happened to Github after the acquisition IMO. The one time that I won't forget about Github under Nat, was when they stood up for Iranian developers [1]. They went the extra distance to get a permission/license from the US government specially to offer full Github to developers from Iran. Many other companies didn't do something similar. [1]: https://github.blog/2021-01-0…

I agree. youtube-dl was another example of them turning a vulnerable moment into a win: https://twitter.com/natfriedman/status/1328365679473426432

Re: Thank you, GitHub

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Post by skinnymuch »

est31 wrote: post #87
joshmanders wrote: post #71

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Microsoft has shareholders, don't they?

In 2018, MS had 110 billion USD in revenue, while Github had 200-300 million USD. So the Github business is <0.5% of MS's revenue.

GitHub’s acquisition cost was close to $24B (dividend and stock value today). Gitlab being far smaller are closing in on $20B valuation. Even if Microsoft is worth $2.5T, GitHub being worth $50B-75B still means a lot. Especially for the synergies they gain with Azure and the good publicity they get from being current stewards of GitHub.
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