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Re: Backblaze S-1 IPO

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Post by prirun »

encryptluks2 wrote: post #100
mkr-hn wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People are confusing backup and sync. Backblaze will run an incremental backup of 20TB and 20GB for the same price, but you have to have 20TB or 20GB of storage attached to the backed up computer. It won't let you access files not on your computer without awkward workarounds, but it also doesn't charge the huge premium sync services charge for the storage.

Backblaze does actually have caps, even though they don't publish them and they throttle even though they say they don't.

In 2018 they published a graph showing a user with a backup over 400TB. If they have space limits, they must be pretty high!

Re: Backblaze S-1 IPO

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Post by prirun »

ac29 wrote: post #52
vineyardmike wrote: post #8

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Backblaze offers "B2" storage, which is also API compatible with S3 (and cheaper, no ingress/egress, etc). I think their focus is more long term storage (slow, infrequent access but cheap per unit).

B2 definitely has egress charges, unless you are going to one of their partners.

B2 also has a 1GB/day free egress allowance, which is what HashBackup uses to keep remote backup space optimized at no cost (I'm the author).

Re: Backblaze S-1 IPO

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Post by divbzero »

throwawaysea wrote: post #136
divbzero wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use rclone as well and it has worked reliably for years. Keeping the password [1] separate allows me to restore files to a fresh computer as needed. Backblaze B2 is just one of many backend options [2]. [1]: https://rclone.org/crypt/ [2]: https://rclone.org/overview/

How does one use this with something like a Synology NAS? Or is that not really the intended workflow? I’m imagining something like a local backup plus a backup to cloud.

I’m not 100% on which workflow you are looking to set up. If you are trying to backup to Synology NAS, you could mount the NAS and use rclone’s “local filesystem” storage backend.

Re: Backblaze S-1 IPO

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Post by throwawaysea »

divbzero wrote: post #233
throwawaysea wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How does one use this with something like a Synology NAS? Or is that not really the intended workflow? I’m imagining something like a local backup plus a backup to cloud.

I’m not 100% on which workflow you are looking to set up. If you are trying to backup to Synology NAS, you could mount the NAS and use rclone’s “local filesystem” storage backend.

I was thinking that I could use a readymade NAS (along with their software) to backup things locally but then I also want a secure and privacy backup of that NAS to a cloud.

Re: Backblaze S-1 IPO

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Post by 0des »

encryptluks2 wrote: post #100
mkr-hn wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People are confusing backup and sync. Backblaze will run an incremental backup of 20TB and 20GB for the same price, but you have to have 20TB or 20GB of storage attached to the backed up computer. It won't let you access files not on your computer without awkward workarounds, but it also doesn't charge the huge premium sync services charge for the storage.

Backblaze does actually have caps, even though they don't publish them and they throttle even though they say they don't.

It sounds like there's no cap. Do you have a source to the contrary?

Re: Backblaze S-1 IPO

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Post by aborsy »

mijoharas wrote: post #179
vadfa wrote: post #142

For a long time I have wanted to use one of these systems, but I would never upload anything to the cloud unless I encrypted it with an algorithm that I trust like GNU's gpg first. Is there any application, preferably for Windows, that can handle this for me? Synchronise files with a cloud system, but encrypting/decrypting them transparently as they are uploaded/downloaded.

I'm surprised that no-one has mentioned tarsnap[0]. It can apparently run via WSL. The main selling point is that it's made by colin percival[1], so if you really care about the security of your backups, you can't get any better. Additionally, it's fairly reasonably priced. When s3 dropped their prices so that tarsnap became cheaper to run, he passed that on directly to customers[2] [0] https://www.tarsnap.com/faq.ht…

Who on earth would pay 0.25$/GB for encryption, that is offered freely by countless programs?

It’s like orders of magnitude more expensive than S3 and b2.

Re: Backblaze S-1 IPO

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Post by UI_at_80x24 »

prirun wrote: post #213
UI_at_80x24 wrote: post #199

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This is not accurate. You are not forced to backup your entire hard-drive. There is a 3rd party program called: rclone That program let's you choose which files/directories get copied over to BackBlaze. We have 150+TB (+10TB/week) stored at BackBlaze and I use rclone exclusively to upload our content for backup. Note, it's a CLI program that works on Linux/BSD. I'm not aware of any other platforms that it works on.

I think the parent post is about the PC Backblaze backup service, not B2. The PC backup service does backup everything, and part of the reason for that is to make it extremely easy to setup. If they allowed selection of what to backup, it would be another user interface, more documentation, and then if the user deselected something important, they'd be mad if they had a problem and something wasn't backed up. Since i…

Ahh thanks, I hadn't thought about that. I can't edit my post.

I was thinking about B2.

Re: Backblaze S-1 IPO

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Post by Mister_Snuggles »

autarch wrote: post #209
Mister_Snuggles wrote: post #65

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What's your process for backing up to B2 using borg? I'm currently doing borg backups to a local server, then using restic to back up my borg backups to B2. My reason for using restic over rclone is so that if the local backup is corrupted I've got history on the remote to fall back to. I'm hoping to find a less cumbersome way to do this.

Ah, looking more close, I'm just using rclone to put the backups on B2. So first I do a backup to a local drive, then I run `borg with-local ... rclone sync ...`.

Ah, ok. That's basically what I'm doing, except I'm using restic instead of rclone.

I've done borg for local backups for a while and figured I could just replace it with restic, then I discovered that restic doesn't do compression so I just pointed that at the borg repositories.

I'll probably use restic directly for things that don't benefit from compression and continue to use borg for things that do.

I'm open to better options though, layering two tools that basically do the same thing seems like a bit of a hack job.

Re: Backblaze S-1 IPO

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Post by tehbeard »

helloworld11 wrote: post #226
prirun wrote: post #213

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the parent post is about the PC Backblaze backup service, not B2. The PC backup service does backup everything, and part of the reason for that is to make it extremely easy to setup. If they allowed selection of what to backup, it would be another user interface, more documentation, and then if the user deselected something important, they'd be mad if they had a problem and something wasn't backed up. Since i…

Noted, but Backblaze's insistence on "simplicity" by obligating a full main drive backup so that users can't later complain that something was missed is silly. Why not just offer this as a default but also offer the choice of creating your own completely custom backup selections, you know, on the assumption that some users of the service might actually know what they want and how to select it.

If you want to get hired by them, propose it, get it approved, implement and test this 2nd code path, and maintain it for foreseeable futures, go right ahead.

Idk about on first run, but I'm pretty sure you can pick and choose which drives it scans, including boot drive, and set up excludes as needed (handy to avoid backing up .git or node_modules)

Re: Backblaze S-1 IPO

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Post by cdumler »

throwawaysea wrote: post #136
divbzero wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use rclone as well and it has worked reliably for years. Keeping the password [1] separate allows me to restore files to a fresh computer as needed. Backblaze B2 is just one of many backend options [2]. [1]: https://rclone.org/crypt/ [2]: https://rclone.org/overview/

How does one use this with something like a Synology NAS? Or is that not really the intended workflow? I’m imagining something like a local backup plus a backup to cloud.

If you want to backup just data, restic works very well; however, you're not backing up configurations or applications. Use HyperBackup. B2 S3-api is compatible.
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