I'll wait for the Linus benchmarks/comparisons.
Apple’s new M1 Pro and M1 Max processors
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#232Disingenuous for Apple to compare these against 2017 Intel chips and call them 2x and 3.7x faster. I would love to see how they fare against 2021 Intel and amd chips.
They did that to compare against the last comparable Intel chips in a Mac, which seems rather useful for people looking to upgrade from that line of Mac.
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#233Are these M1 Pro/Max based on the A14 or A15? Does “M1” == “A14” or does it mean “M1” == “5nm TSMC node”?
The differences between the A14 and A15 are so small it doesn't matter. I suspect the CPU/GPU cores come from the A14 but the ProRes accelerator comes from the A15.
>The differences between the A14 and A15 are so small it doesn't matter.
The testing shows increases in performance and power efficiency.
>Apple A15 performance cores are extremely impressive here – usually increases in performance always come with some sort of deficit in efficiency, or at least flat efficiency. Apple here instead has managed to reduce power whilst increasing performance, meaning energy efficiency is improved by 17% on the peak performance states versus the A14. If we had been able to measure both SoCs at the same performance level, this efficiency advantage of the A15 would grow even larger. In our initial coverage of Apple’s announcement, we theorised that the company might possibly invested into energy efficiency rather than performance increases this year, and I’m glad to see that seemingly this is exactly what has happened, explaining some of the more conservative (at least for Apple) performance improvements.
On an adjacent note, with a score of 7.28 in the integer suite, Apple’s A15 P-core is on equal footing with AMD’s Zen3-based Ryzen 5950X with a score of 7.29, and ahead of M1 with a score of 6.66.
https://www.anandtech.com/show/16983/the-apple-a15-soc-perfo...
Having your phone chip be on par with single core Zen 3 performance is pretty impressive.
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#234Earlier quoted context omitted.
Honest question, what do you do where a $6,099 laptop is justifiable?
I skip getting a Starbuck's latte, and avoid adding extra guac at Chipotle. I'm kidding, that stuff has no affect on anything. Justifiable, as in "does this make practical sense", is not the word, because it doesn't. Justifiable, as in, "does it fit within my budget?" yes that's accurate. I don't have a short answer to why my personal budget is that flexible, but I do remember there was a point in my life where I wou…
Thank you for a very honest and thorough answer.
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#235"Apple’s Commitment to the Environment" > Today, Apple is carbon neutral for global corporate operations, and by 2030, plans to have net-zero climate impact across the entire business, which includes manufacturing supply chains and all product life cycles. This also means that every chip Apple creates, from design to manufacturing, will be 100 percent carbon neutral. But what they won't do is put the chip in an expan…
It absolutely doesn't render the carbon-neutrality of the chip useless. Concern about waste and concern about climate change are bound by a political movement and not a whole lot else. It's not wrong to care about waste more, but honestly its emissions that I care about more.
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#236Earlier quoted context omitted.
Apple almost single-handedly made computing devices non-repairable or upgradable; across their own product line and the industry in general due to their outsized influence.
Single handedly? >According to iFixit, the Surface Laptop isn’t repairable at all. In fact, it got a 0 out of 10 for repairability and was labeled a “glue-filled monstrosity.” The lowest scores previously were a 1 out of 10 for all previous iterations of the Surface Pro https://www.extremetech.com/computing/251046-ifixit-labels-s...
One might argue that Surface laptops were Microsoft's answer to MacBooks.
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#237Why no one is talking about the base 14" 8-Core CPU and 14-Core GPU but not a single mention in the presentation ?
How the new M1 Pro 8 core compared the the M1 8 core ?
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#238Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's not that noteworthy, given that affordable Samsung 980 Pro SSDs have been doing those speeds for well over a year now.
980 pro maxes at 7.
But it's also been around for at least a year. And upcoming pcie 5 SSDs will up that to 10-14GBps.
I'm saying Apple might have wanted to emphasise their more standout achievements. Such as on the CPU front, where they're likely to be well ahead for a year - competition won't catch up until AMD starts shipping 5nm Zen4 CPUs in Q3/Q4 2022.
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This only makes sense if you presume people throw away their laptops when they replace them after "a few years". Given the incredibly high second hand value of macbooks, I think most people sell them or hand them down.
My F500 company has a 5 year tech refresh policy, and old laptops are trashed, not donated or resold.
Exactly, corporate never risks them getting into wrong hands, no matter how theoretical risk that might be. Same for phones
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You can most definitely use the latest Parallels IIRC, why dual boot?
Mostly for gaming. I use bootcamp now to play MTG Arena and StarCraft 2 on windows which seems to have much better perf. I imagine gaming doesnt work well in parallels?
I don't think I'd make that assumption. https://www.applegamingwiki.com/wiki/M1_compatible_games_mas... , for instance, has a number of games that do pretty well in Parallels.