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Re: Ubuntu 21.10

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Post by cycomanic »

nextaccountic wrote: post #219
md8z wrote: post #218

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"Sometimes when I copy things they don't paste, and I need to switch back to the original window for the copy to register." I have honestly never had that problem in years of using GNOME Wayland, but I experienced it many times with misbehaved X11 apps. Maybe you want to come up with a reproducible test case and then report it? "Even GTK 4 supports only integer scaling. So for fractional scaling the compositor has to…

I think the main (or only? not sure) culprit is Firefox (running natively on Wayland) https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1726360 - it reports to be fixed in Firefox 93 but I'm on Firefox 92 still, I guess I should just update. > And I don't think there is much incentive to support this from a hardware perspective either since most people that I see asking for this are using it as a workaround for oddly size…

> think the main (or only? not sure) culprit is Firefox (running natively on Wayland) https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1726360 - it reports to be fixed in Firefox 93 but I'm on Firefox 92 still, I guess I should just update.

I was just about to write the same, the only clipboard issues I've had in wayland were with firefox. I don't know what they do, but even in windows I get weird behavior at times (e.g. when copying out of Jupyter cells for example), much less than wayland though.

Re: Ubuntu 21.10

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Post by mdp2021 »

md8z wrote: post #210
mdp2021 wrote: post #196

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> org.gnome.desktop.interface enable-animations Yes, but it does not disable the fades, nor all the gratuitous animations I see in the GUI of gnome-font-viewer (one of the very few pieces I can try not having uninstalled it). Those animations must have been hardcoded in the software, it must probably be recompiled - and I do not take it for granted they can be disabled through a configuration flag.

I just tried it and it disabled the fades. Maybe you made a typo in the setting? Most GNOME apps are not going to have animations hardcoded, they typically use standard widgets like GtkStack or GtkRevealer that handle the animations automatically and respect the system setting. You can verify this by opening the GTK inspector in Font Viewer.

> Maybe you made a typo in the setting

Before posting I tried `gsettings get org.gnome.desktop.interface enable-animations` and it returns 'false', consistently (as it should) with `dconf-editor` used to see the options. And I verified (as I just re-did) the behaviour of `gnome-font-viewer`: changing the window content (switching the font) fades (messily) from former to latter, using the menu animates a "pull-down", activating the search slides down the interface...

I will try the GTK inspector today.

Re: Ubuntu 21.10

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Post by Chyzwar »

mixmastamyk wrote: post #164
Chyzwar wrote: post #48

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I had no issues with snaps. If anything, I wish more userspace software is provided via snap packages.

The problem with snap is not the software selection, but how obnoxious it is on the system.

If you want to solve security, portability, and distribution in proper way, you will end with something similar.

Security: Snap are running in sandbox by default and have proper support for system permissions. They are installed in user home directory. There is central store that allow for reporting and regularly perform security scanning.

Portability: Snaps works on most distros. They allow building once and distribute everywhere model. You no longer need to build multiple packages for every package manager in universe. They make building software for Linux easy[1]. I remember doing rpm to deb conversion, installing from source and running stuff in VM/docker.

Distribution. Most distros do not accept proprietary apps. Most importantly, you are no longer at the mercy of distro maintainers deciding when you can release your own software. Because your snaps are portable, your users will get updates even if they are on an older distro. Hopefully no more PPA hell that can brick your system.

[1] https://www.electronjs.org/docs/latest/tutorial/snapcraft

Re: Ubuntu 21.10

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Post by mdp2021 »

md8z wrote: post #212
speedybird wrote: post #165

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> I am still wondering what caused that stroke of lunacy - at the time Power users have privilege and need to be hobbled; their complaints ignored. The needs of users with the least privilege, the computer illiterate, should be prioritized. Or something like that.

The general sentiment I see is that if a feature is only used effectively by a small handful of users then it's probably going to risk getting removed. That's just numbers, it doesn't make a difference whether it's "power users" or any other users. Either way maintainer time is limited and sometimes they have to make a decision to drop a feature that isn't pulling its weight. But I've also never heard any description…

> if a feature is only used effectively by a small handful of users

We do automated computing to have tools in general, as we may need them; and we use special features when we need them.

Figure imagemagick discriminating options or functions the same way ("Lanczos stays in, but we could ditch Hamming").

Re: Ubuntu 21.10

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Post by npteljes »

lennydizzy wrote: post #222

which laptop do you guys use? it seems you basically cannot install linux on macbooks anymore

I have a HP EliteBook 850 G7, which I use with Kubuntu 20.04.2 LTS. Mainboard audio had some wonkiness and I'm not sure about the fingerprint reader, I never used it. Everything else worked out of the box: webcam, function keys, touchpad, pointing stick, video card, every USB device I have thrown at it.

Re: Ubuntu 21.10

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Post by vasergen »

yjftsjthsd-h wrote: post #93
vasergen wrote: post #53

My setup for last 3 years is Ubuntu with i3wm (gaps) and NIX as a package manager. I keep Ubuntu as it is, just upgrade OS packages from time to time. All custom setup goes to nix package manager. This way I have more flexibility there and up to date tools that I use. I have all dependencies in a repo, so can quickly spin-up the same desktop environment in another computer if needed, as an example I do it between my…

Then why not just go full nixos?

I just like to have a backup,and be able in case there would be some issues (for whatever reason) just use Ubuntu. For example some package just not exist in nix

Re: Ubuntu 21.10

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Post by vasergen »

schaefer wrote: post #176
vasergen wrote: post #53

My setup for last 3 years is Ubuntu with i3wm (gaps) and NIX as a package manager. I keep Ubuntu as it is, just upgrade OS packages from time to time. All custom setup goes to nix package manager. This way I have more flexibility there and up to date tools that I use. I have all dependencies in a repo, so can quickly spin-up the same desktop environment in another computer if needed, as an example I do it between my…

Any chance your repo is public? Care to share a URL? I'm just getting curious about Nix, and would love to see this specific use case in the wild.

Unfortunately not public, but what I use is home manager, you can check it out here https://github.com/nix-community/home-manager. There is also chance that other people have it publically

Re: Ubuntu 21.10

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Post by adevx »

icedchai wrote: post #188

I've been running Ubuntu on servers for over 12 years. It generally works great... until you upgrade it to the next major release. I haven't had a smooth Ubuntu upgrade in years. During one upgrade, the system lost the default route. There was some bug with multiple NICs. Another time, it decided to rename all the network interfaces, requiring a bunch of manual reconfiguration. Then for some reason my boot device got…

It probably isn't a configuration that is well tested. I only update servers between LTS releases and take the opportunity to start with a fresh install. I think this makes sense even for Windows servers. Too many things change, not only in hardware configuration/drivers, but also major bumps in software packages eg: nginx, apache, postgresql etc.

Re: Ubuntu 21.10

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Post by orloffm »

nsonha wrote: post #145
Chyzwar wrote: post #72

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If anything, Cannonical is aligning with mainstream in recent years: upstart -> systemd, unity -> gnome, mir -> wayland New things that are Canonical specific are netplan and snap. I think snap is solving software packaging in Linux. If anything, I wish that snap brand stores were more affordable.

what's wrong with snap? is it that it needs a deamon?

Four issues with Snap: 1) You don't have control over how it updates packages. By default it can eat your LTE if you run your laptop after a while, for example. 2) It's eating into apt world. They are migrating programs into it which could've been usual apt packages. 3) It normalized longer startup times. 4) There are still issues with file system interop etc, but I personally can't provide an example.
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