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Re: On YouTube’s recommendation system

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YouTube still recommends stuff I hate all the time, despite me explicitly trying to tell the system I'm not interested. To pick an example, my YouTube recommended section is full of videos of people reacting to the things I actually like to watch. I don't want to watch people reacting to the things I like. I just want to watch the things I like. I try to tell YouTube that by saying "Not Interested" to all of the reac…

I use uBlock to stop this type of shenaningans. I set filters for specific channels or "channel networks", for instance if I don't want to see any Vice related video show up in my recomendations, i.e. "Vice Fightland", "Vice bla bla bla" etc, I set a rule such as: www.youtube.com###dismissible:has-text(/Vice/) This way, any channel that has the word Vice in it will never show up to me in recommendations, be it on the…

It'll also get you rid of 99% of React.js tutorials.

A has-text condition always has this risk of matching too much.

Re: On YouTube’s recommendation system

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I hate YouTube recommendations. You’re the guy responsible… I have some choice words for you, but I won’t say them here.. anyways, YouTube sucks a sick one. Recommendations are why I avoid YouTube. They are horrible, you track and one suggest what I’ve already watched/stuff I’ve saved. I can’t get away from recommendations without looking for specific videos. It’s so bad, it would take a while to list. Anyways YouTube sux and I and many others used to really like it. All good things must come to an end.

Re: On YouTube’s recommendation system

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It's sad because I remember being able to find new and interesting creators passively. Now the main page is all corporate BS and the algorithm locks you in. We played a bit of WOW Classic last year and all of a sudden I was just flooded with Asmongold videos and videos of people clipping and replaying Asmongold. It took a day of "never show this again" to make it stop.

What corporate stuff do you have on your main page? Mine is all pretty much filled with content that matches what I watch.

if you try watch any independent news, YouTube will never recommend more of it but will give you MSNBC,CNN etc its bad, years ago the algorithm was very good,it would give you a mix of what your into and new interesting stuff now it seems like its pushing corporate content.

Re: On YouTube’s recommendation system

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For me, it seems like youtube's recommendation system mostly gets stuck in the local optimum. Once you watch a video from a particular channel, it'll keep on recommending the videos from the same channel for months. Soon, the recommendation just consists of stuff from the channels that have you already viewed. You rarely see new types of recommendations.

For all the sophistication claimed in the article, it feels like my recommendations could just as accurately be driven by simple keywords. I wonder how often, if ever, they compare their current solution to much simpler algorithms?

Re: On YouTube’s recommendation system

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I guess what they call it now is the Explore page which is all Ellen and Tonight Show clips.

The Explore page seems to be globally-curated stuff not based on personal taste, so it seems like the opposite of recommended. And is that the main page for you? When I open the website or the Android app I get "Home". "Explore" is a separate tab. "Home" is pretty much filled with recommendations from channels I've watched recently, no corporate stuff (excluding ads). I do see the issue of recommendations being flood…

yea but its like 100% contend that is corporate... if i want to watch late night talk shows i would do that on my TV.... and most of those videos don't get the most views anyways on YouTube so its basically YouTube promoting corporate media

Re: On YouTube’s recommendation system

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I know quite a few casual runners (5K to 10K) and been running for over 15 years myself. Other than a $120 pair of running shoes every year or two, what is the expense? Maybe the water backpack things if you are into extreme running? It is not even a separate expense for me, as I just use my running shoes as my regular shoes. Also, maybe it is my gait or my lack of weight, but I estimate my shoes last 1k miles.

I suppose things aren't as expensive if you are a casual but I'm still surprised you can get 1k out of a pair of shoes. My mother also runs and is significantly lighter than myself and she gets shin splints if she doesn't change runners out at 500 miles. My current system is to run a pair of shoes for about 350 - 450 miles then downgrade them to a pair of walking shoes in till they fall apart. I started running fairl…

How do you like the conductive headphones for that purpose? I have been considering doing the same for when I go on walks at night.

Re: On YouTube’s recommendation system

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For me, it seems like youtube's recommendation system mostly gets stuck in the local optimum. Once you watch a video from a particular channel, it'll keep on recommending the videos from the same channel for months. Soon, the recommendation just consists of stuff from the channels that have you already viewed. You rarely see new types of recommendations.

I've thought about making several accounts, and watching different kinds of content on different accounts, so that each would have recommendations for whatever topic I'm in the mood for at that time.

Of course, that'd be a pain to manage, so I haven't gotten around to it.

Re: On YouTube’s recommendation system

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For me, it seems like youtube's recommendation system mostly gets stuck in the local optimum. Once you watch a video from a particular channel, it'll keep on recommending the videos from the same channel for months. Soon, the recommendation just consists of stuff from the channels that have you already viewed. You rarely see new types of recommendations.

yea for regular stuff but some categories YouTube will push what it wants you to watch not what you want to.. like independent news channels, on the right it will was want to play next a CNN,MSNBC or other corporate news channel. This was not the case a few years ago, now they say that they do this on purpose to give "credible" sources more views...
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