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Amazon’s answer to delivery driver shortage: Pot smokers

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Anecdotally, I have never met nor heard of anyone mixing anything with weed except for tobacco, sometimes . So how is this "correct"?

Doesn't mean some won't do it, or that they will tell you.

What exactly is the implication with this tidbit?

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Is that not a different kind of test, for current presence rather than past use?

There aren't any reliable tests for active marijuana intoxication. Blood tests are sometimes used in DUI situations, but the science is weak. It's not as definitive as alcohol testing. You can test positive for marijuana in hair and urine tests weeks after last use, and test positive in blood tests well beyond the point of intoxication (like the next day).

I has a friend who tested positive on urine test despite not ever consuming MJ. Turns out he took ibuprofen and the test came out positive.

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How does staffing for school bus drivers work? I imagine they have to have a pretty exact number of drivers? They can't really have too many or too few, how close to the exact number do they have to get, or how do they handle underages/overages?

Those are all great questions. There is almost never an "overage" because there is a driver assigned per route, but they also have a bunch of sub drivers who get paid to show up, wait, and maybe take a route whose driver didn't show up, but if not, they go home after getting paid for an hour of waiting. That's the gist, but it's a bit more complicated than that; in the school district where I live, bus drivers who we…

Staggering school bus service isn’t that uncommon, I don’t think there are many school districts where their bus drivers only need to drive one route rather than 2 or 3. Not only can the drivers be employed for most of the day, but the bus itself gets more use.

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I mean, this has always been this case with alcohol hasn't it? it's legal to consume but not while at work or operating vehicles. if you do so and injuries/death result, you are held liable.

The test for marijuana aren't as useful as the tests for alcohol. Marijuana test may still come up positive long after you are impaired.

Yes, THC is lipophilic. Heavy users can take as long as 30 days to test negative.

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Damn, I always forget that drug testing is still a thing. If you were under the impression that Amazon & other companies are actually screening for cannabis use, you should realize that in any legal state they basically did everything they could to make sure their employees would not test positive. It's extremely hard to find people that would work minimum wage and are completely weed/drug free - especially if you ne…

Bus companies cannot compete. Bus companies will simply claim a shortage and your child will be left at home if the route has no driver. To get the contract you must be the lowest bidder. In order to do that you need to pay drivers as little as possible. Raising wages means losing money.

Uhh no. Leaving kids stranded at a bus stop is a huge liability for the school because if the kid wanders off and gets hurt or gets in trouble, the school could be held at fault. If a bus company is leaving kids stranded more than once in a blue moon, they will lose their contract.

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Your response smacks of implication that the labor price is fair, and that the minimum living handouts people were getting are somehow wrong?

they may or may not have been appropriate 18 months ago, far before the vaccine was even a thought.. but they definitely lasted too long and artificially raised the price of labor..

Go on about what the price of labor should be.

For you.

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they may or may not have been appropriate 18 months ago, far before the vaccine was even a thought.. but they definitely lasted too long and artificially raised the price of labor..

Go on about what the price of labor should be. For you.

Yes, please do.

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Bus companies cannot compete. Bus companies will simply claim a shortage and your child will be left at home if the route has no driver. To get the contract you must be the lowest bidder. In order to do that you need to pay drivers as little as possible. Raising wages means losing money.

Uhh no. Leaving kids stranded at a bus stop is a huge liability for the school because if the kid wanders off and gets hurt or gets in trouble, the school could be held at fault. If a bus company is leaving kids stranded more than once in a blue moon, they will lose their contract.

Nah, the school can blame the bus company, and the bus company can blame the school. Any queries about abandoned children just get bounced back and forth until the matter is forgotten about. Split liability typically means no liability.

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There are plenty of psychoactive substances on the shelves of any major supermarket and most of the stuff is completely unregulated. How is coffee different from tobacco? How is nutmeg or saffron different from drugs? How about artificial flavonoid—xanthine concoctions such as Red Bull?

> How is coffee different from tobacco? The difference in effect on health is severe, for one? There’s room for more nuance than ”both of these are psychoactive substances”.

Sure. But how about the fact that tobacco and coffee actually share the same psychoactive substances, i.e. Harmala alkaloids?

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There aren't any reliable tests for active marijuana intoxication. Blood tests are sometimes used in DUI situations, but the science is weak. It's not as definitive as alcohol testing. You can test positive for marijuana in hair and urine tests weeks after last use, and test positive in blood tests well beyond the point of intoxication (like the next day).

I has a friend who tested positive on urine test despite not ever consuming MJ. Turns out he took ibuprofen and the test came out positive.

Even if your friend truly did not consume marijuana how do you conclude it was the ibuprofen that caused that failed test?
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