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Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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Post by rkk3 » Wed, Aug 25, 2021, 9:01 PM UTC

crazygringo wrote: post #190

Clubber wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think that's accurate. Do you have some links or anything to back that up? Like actual transcripts, not some media interpretation. "People say, do you think it's safe to get vaccinated? I've said, yeah, I think for the most part it's safe to get vaccinated. I do. I do," Rogan said on the podcast. "But if you're like 21 years old, and you say to me, should I get vaccinated? I'll go no. Are you healthy? Are you…

Of course that's anti-vax. The main purpose of getting the vaccine isn't just to protect yourself -- it's to reduce the chances of you transmitting it to others . It's about herd immunity, not personal immunity. Whether you're young and healthy is irrelevant.

> The main purpose of getting the vaccine isn't just to protect yourself -- it's to reduce the chances of you transmitting it to others. It's about herd immunity, not personal immunity.

Not about personal immunity? Why did we roll it out by age group then?

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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Post by nradov » Wed, Aug 25, 2021, 9:02 PM UTC

suzzer99 wrote: post #219

arodgers_la wrote: post #188

Comedian Bill Burr said it best: "I'm not gonna sit here with no medical degree, listening to you with no medical degree, with an American flag behind you smoking a cigar acting like we know what's up better than the CDC." [0] That quote is Joe Rogan's shtick in a nutshell. [0] https://youtube.com/watch?v=tSKVXl-WnrA&t=5m20s

This. I just wish he'd take his enormous reach a little more seriously when he entertains quack pseudoscience as if it's an equally valid POV to real peer-reviewed science.

You're asking a professional comedian to be more serious? Are you actually serious or is that a joke?

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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Post by clipradiowallet » Wed, Aug 25, 2021, 9:02 PM UTC

reanimus wrote: post #135

Clubber wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think that's accurate. Do you have some links or anything to back that up? Like actual transcripts, not some media interpretation. "People say, do you think it's safe to get vaccinated? I've said, yeah, I think for the most part it's safe to get vaccinated. I do. I do," Rogan said on the podcast. "But if you're like 21 years old, and you say to me, should I get vaccinated? I'll go no. Are you healthy? Are you…

Yeah, it is! People thinking they don't need the vaccine are contracting COVID and acting like human petri dishes for new variants to arise from. It's also ignoring the reality of COVID aftereffects (like parosmia) that affect young people who recover too.

How do you come to that conclusion? Specifically your conflusion that Joe Rogan is "anti-vax" from your sample of him replying "I'll go no". If that's all it takes for you to label someone, is someone saying "I'll go no" to a homosexual encounter also anti-gay? Is someone who doesn't agree with their governments policy anti-government? Might want to relax a bit...I hear opinions are like certain body parts. We've all got them, including Joe Rogan, and getting up in arms about it doesn't help you or anyone else.

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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Post by krastanov » Wed, Aug 25, 2021, 9:02 PM UTC

complianceowl wrote: post #123

xutopia wrote: post #48

To be fair... his move to Spotify coincided with him spewing more and more anti-vax and anti-mask drivel that I don't have any interest in listening to.

All of us are right and wrong to varying degrees. I don't think Joe Rogan cares much for people that stop listening because he doesn't reinforce their politics. He never has. He's also spoken about the whole point of him having FU money is that he is able to say whatever he wants and not care about the blowback. I'm not anti-vax, but ultimately, my body, my choice. People who are risk averse are free to self-quaranti…

There are plenty of situations in which we as a society have decided that freedoms are curbed to protect the masses. Drunk driving laws for instance. If you are putting people around you at risk, it seems perfectly reasonable to me to require you to stay home, not all the other people who have taken the easy trivial precautions (vaccines and masks) necessary to protect those around them.

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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Post by Alupis » Wed, Aug 25, 2021, 9:02 PM UTC

chucksta wrote: post #148

blueprint wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

how do they have it twisted?

They think he cares more about his reach then is dollars

In the podcasting world, reach == dollars. With a declining audience, his show will generate declining revenue for Spotify, and eventually he will receive less money because of it.

Keep in mind, Rogan said multiple times on his show he would never sell out because he wanted to do whatever he wanted to do... then he sold out to a platform that immediately cut off a large portion of his viewership.

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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Post by tych0 » Wed, Aug 25, 2021, 9:03 PM UTC

nradov wrote: post #232

suzzer99 wrote: post #219

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This. I just wish he'd take his enormous reach a little more seriously when he entertains quack pseudoscience as if it's an equally valid POV to real peer-reviewed science.

You're asking a professional comedian to be more serious? Are you actually serious or is that a joke?

Seems like GP might be talking about Joe Rogan.

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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Post by diragon » Wed, Aug 25, 2021, 9:03 PM UTC

Spotify snatching exclusive podcasts made me quit Spotify for music as well. That's a grab that I do not tolerate.

This further cements the fact that IPO is a near certain death sentence for a product.

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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Post by [deleted] » Wed, Aug 25, 2021, 9:03 PM UTC

bostonsre wrote: post #47

beezischillin wrote: post #35

I stopped watching purely due to the Spotify deal. I was willing to give it a try until I saw that they were memoryholing episodes. I might be in the minority here but it felt like a betrayal. If he wanted more money he could’ve invested in his own platform like many others and people would’ve followed. There’s plenty of other content in the sea.

memoryholing episodes == ?

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Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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Post by radicalbyte » Wed, Aug 25, 2021, 9:04 PM UTC

altacc wrote: post #159

Hearing "Exclusively on Spotify" on any podcast ad is a sure-fire way to make sure I never listen to an episode. One of the great features of podcasts is the flexibility in listening platform and I'd really rather not switch to Spotify's substandard user experience.

I subscribe to Spotify but I dropped Rogan when he left. I have all my other podcasts in one app, listening history and all.

Now I have to drop that because Spotify want to play monopoly? S** that.

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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Post by paulpauper » Wed, Aug 25, 2021, 9:04 PM UTC

This is the weakest analysis I have ever seen for an article. It's just noise. The sample size is too small to make any inference. A combination of people quarantined due to covid , the election, and BLM hype is why 2020 was such a big year. Joe Rogan is still hugely influential. His comments in 2021 about vaccines made headlines everywhere.