Why do so many people move to the Falkland Islands? (2009) • Hacker News Board

Re: Why do so many people move to the Falkland Islands? (2009)

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Post by alibarber » Fri, Aug 20, 2021, 7:48 AM UTC

cataphract wrote: post #182

alibarber wrote: post #143

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I am British and I moved to an EU country when Britain was still in the EU. I was surprised because unless I went to the immigration office to prove to them that I either had 'enough' (never really defined) money to support myself, or had a permanent employment contract - I would not have any state coverage for anything (health etc). The UK would of course not support my health care in a different country on a perman…

What country is this? In Portugal you only need a declaration under penalty of perjury that 1) you are employed or self-employed (no need of a permanent contract), 2) that you have enough money to support yourself and your dependents and that you have health insurance, provided such requirement applies to Portuguese citizens in your country of origin (leaving asides the students here). In particular the national law…

This is Finland. That declaration is basically what they are checking but you are not trusted to declare it yourself.

I don't know how important the permanent thing is or if it is tbh. Here it is not possible to claim salary-linked unemployment benefits (which on paper are actually quite generous) unless you have worked for some period of time (6 months or so in some larger period) even if you are as Finnish as can be.

The thing is, there are many 'soft' things that rely on that registration going through, eg. bank account[1], even a local-priced transport pass.

[1]A Finnish bank account here is more than a place to stash money, it's proof of your ID online to any of the nice e-government services.

Re: Why do so many people move to the Falkland Islands? (2009)

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Post by cataphract » Fri, Aug 20, 2021, 2:21 PM UTC

alibarber wrote: post #231

cataphract wrote: post #182

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What country is this? In Portugal you only need a declaration under penalty of perjury that 1) you are employed or self-employed (no need of a permanent contract), 2) that you have enough money to support yourself and your dependents and that you have health insurance, provided such requirement applies to Portuguese citizens in your country of origin (leaving asides the students here). In particular the national law…

This is Finland. That declaration is basically what they are checking but you are not trusted to declare it yourself. I don't know how important the permanent thing is or if it is tbh. Here it is not possible to claim salary-linked unemployment benefits (which on paper are actually quite generous) unless you have worked for some period of time (6 months or so in some larger period) even if you are as Finnish as can b…

For unemployment benefits here you need to have worked 1 year in the past 2 years (possibly interpolated). This applies to nationals and union citizens alike. But the time you worked in other EU countries count towards that total as well. So there is not even indirect discrimination against Union citizens.

Re: Why do so many people move to the Falkland Islands? (2009)

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Post by [deleted] » Sat, Aug 28, 2021, 2:05 PM UTC

pjc50 wrote: post #117

antihero wrote: post #112

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I think the difference is that as a UK citizen, I have been paying into the social security and health system for my entire working life, as opposed to the brief time someone was here to work. Though it is kind of dumb.

So you think 18 year olds shouldn't be allowed access to the NHS until they've worked for a year or paid a surcharge? (Obviously not, that's nonsense, but that's the conclusion that would follow from the false premise of predicating healthcare on length of payments. It's pensions that are dependent on payins of National Insurance.)

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