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How does one check if an app running on a mac is native or electron?
If it looks identical to the web app and consumes half a gig of RAM, it's probably electron.
Is SourceTree an electron app?
1Password 8 will be subscription only and won’t support local vaults
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Re: 1Password 8 will be subscription only and won’t support local vaults
#232I've been looking for a reason to switch to gopass completely. Thanks AgileBits!
Re: 1Password 8 will be subscription only and won’t support local vaults
#233Scott Forstall, who led iOS until 2012 and oversaw the creation of the App Store, once said that he installed a new app every day to see what new ideas developers were coming up with.
The mass migration of apps to the subscription model has killed this sort of exploration and discovery of new apps. As one example, I recently looked for a flight tracker and many wanted more than $30/yr for a tool that is (to me) an occasional convenience.
I worry less about how much I pay to use an app than how much I'm paying when I'm not using the app. It sucks when I'm too busy to use my language learning app and yet somehow I still end up owing the app developer every month. By the time I end up canceling I might have wasted $60 or more, which certainly doesn't motivate me to install the next app that prompts me to subscribe.
I don't know the solution to adequately compensate developers for their work but I hope the subscription mania goes away.
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I'm perfectly happy with paying a subscription, and think $4.99/month for 5 people is affordable. What I'm not happy with is the possibility of password access being limited or sync breaking if 1Password servers go down. At least with Dropbox (iCloud, wifi) sync, I have full control over the local vault file. Ultimately, it might be mostly about ownership and choice for me.
Also I think the "head" of the family can reset passwords of the other accounts...
Not sure why I'm being downvoted...: https://support.1password.com/recovery/
Ps. They can delete accounts too: https://support.1password.com/add-remove-family-members/
Re: 1Password 8 will be subscription only and won’t support local vaults
#235I haven't had a single bad experience with Bitwarden. I even pay for it now and still run it locally just to support them. Highly recommended if you don't want to be forced into 1Password's service.
What's the main point of Bitwarden or competitors over traditional password managers such as KeePassXC? Better autofill features?
Advantages of bitwarden:
- conflict-less sync; with KeepassXC, I learned to live with keepass-diff, once the inevitable sync conflict happens
- no need to have entire app running, or even installed; in browser, the extension is enough. KeepassXC was a kind of annoying to launch.
- password sharing
Advantages of KeepassXC:
- can autofill http auth dialogs; bitwarden still cannot do this
- can serve as ssh agent, so synced database takes care of your ssh keys too
Re: 1Password 8 will be subscription only and won’t support local vaults
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#237I guess I’m the outlier in being very happy with 1Password and fine with paying for the subscription service. Not only is 1Password the best password manager I’ve used, but it makes it seamless to share stuff with my wife. I don’t care if 8 is an Electron app either, considering I usually interact with it via the browser anyway with their extension. (Also I know that the majority of what they wrote for it is Rust and…
I'm perfectly happy with paying a subscription, and think $4.99/month for 5 people is affordable. What I'm not happy with is the possibility of password access being limited or sync breaking if 1Password servers go down. At least with Dropbox (iCloud, wifi) sync, I have full control over the local vault file. Ultimately, it might be mostly about ownership and choice for me.
> $4.99/month for 5 people is affordable.
I’m glad you find it affordable but these nickle and dime things add up. Especially when the product fits into $0 software so $4.99 is infinitely higher than $0.
I feel like these small, “affordable,” services are just whittling away the Unix philosophy of do one small thing well. Layering on unnecessary crap just to charge a fee eventually comes home to roost.
Also, passwords is a lifetime need. So 80 years x 12 months = $4,790.4 and that seems like a cost that should be reduced out of one’s lifetime.
Do I want to go to Tahiti once in my life, or pay for password convenience?
Again, glad you’re happy but I don’t want to live in a world where I pay $5/month for commercials versions that crowd out what should be community, OSS tools. I love curl and it’s awesome, but don’t want to pay $5/month/forever.
We forget that taxes are inefficient and should be minimized where possible. A login tax for all eternity sucks.
Re: 1Password 8 will be subscription only and won’t support local vaults
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That pushes me even further towards going that route. It looks like it requires an export-than-import though? https://bitwarden.com/help/article/import-from-1password/
It’s not a complete import, you’ll get usernames and passwords but if you’ve done anything else with it (like say attaching software license files, scans of important documents, etc) they’ll be silently dropped. Most record types (software license, wireless router, documents, drivers licenses, email accounts, membership, passports, maybe more) don’t exist in Bitwarden. I’m not sure what happens with all of those, may…
Before I started using 1Password I did use the secure disk image method for storing what I now store in 1Password. But it's only a few things, really, and in every case it's just to have quicker access to something normally stored in a file cabinet so I don't have to dig into the files.
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#239Earlier quoted context omitted.
Bitwarden can 1-click import 1Password vaults.
I have done this, and it was horrible… for example I was missing all attachments (no notification or error messages). Also the fields are not properly converted 1:1. All in all, it was a big mess. This was about a year ago.
As far as attachments, that's a 1Password problem. Their export handles attachments horribly. At least it did a year ago.
Re: 1Password 8 will be subscription only and won’t support local vaults
#240I love 1Password but the subscription-only path doesn't sit well with me. They're intentionally removing key features so they can justify providing a service that I can do myself. I'm increasingly sick of good standalone software suddenly moving to this model. They are a business, I get it. However how many subscriptions are we going to have to end up with? I get it with Slack, Dropbox, Github, etc as they all starte…
The gaslighting also makes me very uncomfortable: > The overwhelming majority of people (97% in fact) choose to subscribe to our new service and many of those who initially purchased a license later changed their mind and traded it in for a membership. With each of the last two versions, they hid the standalone version more. I'd hardly characterize all 97% of those users as voluntary. Their PR doublespeak isn't helpi…
I think it depends on how they got 97%. They hide the standard version on the website, but the specific picture they show in-app[0] is pretty clear about the license option, so if it's 97% of people choosing the subscription via that screen i'd believe them.
0: https://com-agilebits-users.s3.amazonaws.com/dave/1password7...
