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Re: Goodbye, Fleets

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Post by wombatpm »

ChrisArchitect wrote: post #65
thallavajhula wrote: post #5

Twitter is great when it comes to transparency. I love how they included this >Although we built Fleets to address some of the anxieties that hold people back from Tweeting, Fleets are mostly used by people who are already Tweeting to amplify their own Tweets and talk directly with others. We’ll explore more ways to address what holds people back from participating on Twitter. And for the people who already are Tweet…

Yeah I actually really respect that they axed something within a timely span, posted about their thoughts, and well, lately the Twitter team has been killing it as far as deploying features and long talked about stuff, so it's all good. The idea of Fleets, whether it was inspired by Stories etc, was another way to engage users and it did have some usefulness. I love the 24hr disappearing thing on IG and I liked it si…

If only Twitter had a full time CEO. Look at the innovation pace coming out of Square.

Re: Goodbye, Fleets

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Post by netcraft »

btown wrote: post #168
PragmaticPulp wrote: post #21

Kudos to Twitter for pulling the plug on a high profile feature that wasn't working out. I saw some reasonably interesting Fleets at first, but it quickly devolved into a low-effort self promotion feature as they noted: > Although we built Fleets to address some of the anxieties that hold people back from Tweeting, Fleets are mostly used by people who are already Tweeting to amplify their own Tweets Eventually I stop…

The one thing that Fleets had going for them, that I think Twitter needs more than anything, is the fact that they are fleeting . Many people, myself included, are afraid to tweet something inane on main, lest we forget to delete it (or lest it be archived by a crawler), and have it taken out of context years later in a way that might damage our careers. But it doesn't follow that "something is fleeting, therefore it…

Ive always wished to be able to put an expiration on tweets. There are a lot of things that dont need to live forever. Here in the south if I go a couple hours without looking at twitter sometimes ill have to scroll through lots of weather related tweets for a current storm system that I would have loved if I was watching twitter at the time, but are useless to me now. And maybe they dont get deleted, but just dont show up in others timeline, but would if you went directly to that account - so replies and all are preserved. (I think something similar could be done to focus a tweet to a geographical area, but I digress)

Re: Goodbye, Fleets

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Post by derefr »

riffic wrote: post #226
thallavajhula wrote: post #5

Twitter is great when it comes to transparency. I love how they included this >Although we built Fleets to address some of the anxieties that hold people back from Tweeting, Fleets are mostly used by people who are already Tweeting to amplify their own Tweets and talk directly with others. We’ll explore more ways to address what holds people back from participating on Twitter. And for the people who already are Tweet…

> Twitter is great when it comes to transparency Are you kidding? This is an incredibly opaque and user-hostile company. edit: I am one of the moderators of /r/Twitter on Reddit. Come look at my subreddit if you want a feel for where my opinion is being drawn from. This company is in absolutely no way transparent .

I’m guessing the person you’re replying to meant that Twitter’s engineering department is transparent.

Re: Goodbye, Fleets

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Post by telotortium »

px43 wrote: post #218
telotortium wrote: post #202

Earlier quoted context omitted.

David Shor - he was impulsively fired by his firm last June for just a tweet linking to academic research (I think by a black academic) that argued that violent protests following the MLK assassination reduced the share of Democratic support in the following presidential election, while non-violent protests increase Democratic support: https://www.vox.com/2020/7/29/21340308/david-shor-omar-wasow... . David Shor is a…

In the responses I read through on twitter, no one accused him of racism. People were upset that in the wake of a tragedy he seemed to only care about getting blue votes, which is pretty insensitive. Also, just like you said, he's doing fine now. The claim that tweets are ruining lives gets repeated over and over again, but it's a complete myth. It's a conflation of actual actual racists and nazis getting outed and o…

I would never consider getting fired over a tweet as a trivial matter, but he is fortunate to be doing well.

Who do you think was properly fired/ostracized for tweets?

Re: Goodbye, Fleets

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Post by cratermoon »

bogwog wrote: post #89
erehweb wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Inflated FB video numbers have been known for a long while now - references to it in Sep 2016 https://www.facebook.com/business/news/facebook-video-metric...

The contrast on that text makes me feel like they don't want anyone to actually read it.

https://www.theverge.com/2018/10/17/17989712/facebook-inaccu...

Re: Goodbye, Fleets

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Post by Tycho »

charcircuit wrote: post #183
Tycho wrote: post #45

It was incredibly annoying how it took up significant real estate at the top of the screen and there was no way to disable the feature. Good riddance.

It didn't though. It took up 1/8th of the screen and it wasn't sticky. If you scroll down it's off the screen. Is it really that big of a deal that you can't see an extra tweet when you are all caught up?

More like a 1/7th of the space previously reserved for the timeline, and considerably worse on older phones with smaller screens (eg iPhone 7). The fact that it disappeared when scrolling down but reappeared instantly when scrolling up made it even more annoying. Tyrannising your scrolling behaviour. The fucking audacity.

Re: Goodbye, Fleets

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Post by Razengan »

whywhywhywhy wrote: post #31

The lack of innovation at Twitter, Instagram and Facebook is utterly baffling and points to a serious culture problem. Feels there are rooms of people now just being paid to clone successful features from other apps and only after those apps have carved their place in the market, literally become followers rather than trailblazers. In just a few years Instagram is going to seem completely old hat to anyone who didn't…

> The lack of innovation at Twitter, Instagram and Facebook is utterly baffling and points to a serious culture problem.

Yes, and the befuddling long time it takes them to implement obvious features that smaller teams delivery within days, like support for dark mode, or an auto-repeat button on YouTube (seriously wtf is up with that, they have auto-play but not repeat? w. t. f. Google)

Re: Goodbye, Fleets

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Post by Razengan »

nerfhammer wrote: post #159
whywhywhywhy wrote: post #31

The lack of innovation at Twitter, Instagram and Facebook is utterly baffling and points to a serious culture problem. Feels there are rooms of people now just being paid to clone successful features from other apps and only after those apps have carved their place in the market, literally become followers rather than trailblazers. In just a few years Instagram is going to seem completely old hat to anyone who didn't…

I've been thinking of it in terms of convergence, maybe they're all converging on the identical "optimal" social network.

The “optimal” network was mix-and-matching different apps and services as you saw fit. Fool around on IRC/web forums → Invite people to MSN Messenger as you grow closer, trade email etc., increasing and cutting back on the access of information shared with each person as you saw fit.

Herding as many people as possible into one service and corralling them in there seems to benefit the megacorps more than the users.

Re: Goodbye, Fleets

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Post by Kye »

AzzieElbab wrote: post #166
mdoms wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use Tweet Delete[0] to auto-delete my tweets older than a month. I see no value in keeping old tweets around, especially compared to the risk that I inadvertently become briefly well-known and some wokes decide to trawl my timeline, take some tweet from 12 years ago out of context and convince my employer that I'm racist or something. Seen it happen too many times. [0] https://tweetdelete.net/

deleting tweets is somewhat pointless when you consider existence of things like wayback machine.

I was surprised to find Twitter doesn't block their crawler.

https://web.archive.org/web/20061109101219/http://twitter.co...

Re: Goodbye, Fleets

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Post by riffic »

derefr wrote: post #233
riffic wrote: post #226

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Twitter is great when it comes to transparency Are you kidding? This is an incredibly opaque and user-hostile company. edit: I am one of the moderators of /r/Twitter on Reddit. Come look at my subreddit if you want a feel for where my opinion is being drawn from. This company is in absolutely no way transparent .

I’m guessing the person you’re replying to meant that Twitter’s engineering department is transparent.

I don't know, it just kind of came across as being an astroturfed statement.
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