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Re: Firefox 90

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Post by Kye »

bergheim wrote: post #122

I think Firefox news is what I comment most on here. I don't know why. Well I guess I do. Web browsers, javascript etc is front and center here - which somewhat means the digital world. All my friends use Chrome, and think I'm weird. I think _they_ are. They care about human rights, at least I think they do. But, having Google, an ad company, dictate how our window to the digital world looks like, is now _way worse_…

>> Imagine if Amazon "invented" Wikipedia.

You can get an idea from how much IMDB data costs. They didn't invent it, but they did buy it.

https://aws.amazon.com/marketplace/search/results?page=1&fil...

Re: Firefox 90

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Post by remram »

fleddr wrote: post #218
aembleton wrote: post #211

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> In our dashboards, Firefox does not even exist. Where are your dashboards getting the data from? I use Firefox, but like many Firefox users I use uBlockOrigin so I block requests to trackers like Google Analytics and StatCounter.

From Adobe analytics and sometimes Google analytics. You're right that ad blockers are on the rise, but that's also true for Chrome. Note that the points I made regarding market share seem to be consistent across the board. Whether you check Statcounter, an alternative to that, or the analytics of large websites. The story is the same: Firefox is tiny, lost in a see of dozens of equally tiny browsers.

Firefox users are running uBlock and Badger on mobile too

Re: Firefox 90

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Post by pfundstein »

berniemadoff69 wrote: post #168
40four wrote: post #148

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That doesn’t mean anything. It’s a tired attack that gets repeated over and over, but has nothing to do with the values and goals Mozilla/ Firefox represent.

I think if I learned Greenpeace was single-handedly funded by Exxon, my reaction wouldn't be to say 'that doesnt mean anything'

So what do you think it means then?

Re: Firefox 90

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Post by stereoradonc »

ergot_vacation wrote: post #173
bergheim wrote: post #122

I think Firefox news is what I comment most on here. I don't know why. Well I guess I do. Web browsers, javascript etc is front and center here - which somewhat means the digital world. All my friends use Chrome, and think I'm weird. I think _they_ are. They care about human rights, at least I think they do. But, having Google, an ad company, dictate how our window to the digital world looks like, is now _way worse_…

The general mass of humanity never does things because they're "right": Ethical, Forward-Thinking, Better For Society etc. They do them because they're easy. To the extent that wide social change ever happens, it only happens because the path of least resistance shifted from one thing to another. If you despair for the actions of the masses, never try to reason with them. Skip straight to assembling a good marketing…

I completely agree about the owners being corrupted. Under the semblance of "open source", the owners are only increasing their take-home salaries while firing away all the lower -level staff.

Re: Firefox 90

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Post by agumonkey »

acwan93 wrote: post #158
edgyquant wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why not use an ftp client if you want to use ftp?

Don't know why this comment is being downvoted. I'd prefer to use another client like Transmit or Cyberduck. Having it all in one browser introduces complexity I don't think the team at Mozilla wants.

I was at the meeting and they simply preferred to add more people to the tab redesign rather than the FTP code.

Re: Firefox 90

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Post by jimbob45 »

bergheim wrote: post #122

I think Firefox news is what I comment most on here. I don't know why. Well I guess I do. Web browsers, javascript etc is front and center here - which somewhat means the digital world. All my friends use Chrome, and think I'm weird. I think _they_ are. They care about human rights, at least I think they do. But, having Google, an ad company, dictate how our window to the digital world looks like, is now _way worse_…

> All my friends use Chrome

I’m guessing 99% of the users of this site use Chrome…Dev Tools. The real question is what people use for personal browsing after hours. I wish Mozilla would just import Chrome’s Dev Tools because they’re just undeniably better than anything else on the market.

Re: Firefox 90

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Post by eyewing »

jules-jules wrote: post #98

This might get lost but figure if someone knows about it it's here. Old Firefox allowed to double-click between two words and both would get highlighted. This has been removed in the newer versions. Does anybody know if it's possible to manually configure this?

Just tried it on Firefox on MacOS. Double-clicking between two words (maybe a little closer to the left word), highlights both words. Not sure what else to say.

Re: Firefox 90

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Post by asoneth »

aembleton wrote: post #211
fleddr wrote: post #160

I noticed in the comments below how somebody mentioning Firefox's limited market share was heavily downvoted. I'm a Firefox user since forever, and will keep using it. I also want Mozilla to win, and strongly empathize with their engineers whom are trying to make the best of it. That said, I think the reality check should not be avoided. There is no good in do-good software without reach. Based on statcounter, Firefo…

> In our dashboards, Firefox does not even exist. Where are your dashboards getting the data from? I use Firefox, but like many Firefox users I use uBlockOrigin so I block requests to trackers like Google Analytics and StatCounter.

That may be true that dashboards are under-counting Firefox, but the ultimate impact is the same. Without some kind of evidence that more than a trivial number of hits come from Firefox why would any small business pour time into catering to an audience that might exist instead of pursuing one that does?

Re: Firefox 90

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Post by [deleted] »

downWidOutaFite wrote: post #188
ergot_vacation wrote: post #173

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The general mass of humanity never does things because they're "right": Ethical, Forward-Thinking, Better For Society etc. They do them because they're easy. To the extent that wide social change ever happens, it only happens because the path of least resistance shifted from one thing to another. If you despair for the actions of the masses, never try to reason with them. Skip straight to assembling a good marketing…

I sense some cognitive dissonance between your two paragraphs. In the first you argue for a focus on consumerism and marketing, in the second you criticize Firefox for competing by appealing to styles and trends.

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