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Re: Brave Search beta

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Post by judge2020 »

jonathansampson wrote: post #164
judge2020 wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem is that referral programs are intended to get people who wouldn't have signed up for a site to use it, and for binance that means getting people not already signed up to sign up and trade crypto on binance.us. This includes the referer getting up to 40% of trading fees[0]. Even for the example where a user chooses between the search 'binance' and `binance.us/?ref=`, in both cases they were already plannin…

If you read the post covering the feature in Brave, and reviewed the screenshots of its implementation, you'd see that the intent here was to respond to user input, and offer the user the option of using Brave's referral link. The intent was never to coerce users into using the link; it was merely presented as an option—a clean and clear way to support Brave development. It is still an example of traffic attribution,…

If binance is fine with it then sure, but it's not like Binance is getting any extra sign-ups thanks to Brave from these suggestions, they're just giving up a percentage of their trading fees when it happens (the user would have signed up regardless of if you allowed them to use the optional referral code or not).

Re: Brave Search beta

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Post by celsoazevedo »

smoldesu wrote: post #213
jonathansampson wrote: post #169

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The BAT (and before it, Bitcoin) is there as an optional feature. It's not on or enabled by default. It's there for users who wish to anonymously earn rewards for their attention, and use those rewards to support content creators on the Web.

...except those "rewards" don't ever reach the creators pockets, unless they're savvy enough to make their own ERC wallet and go through the collection process.

"If a publisher has not verified ownership, then a user’s contributions will be held in reserve inside the browser for 90 days. [...] At the end of the 90 day period, any contributions marked for unverified publishers will be released back to the wallet. No funds leave the browser except to go to verified creators."

https://brave.com/faq-rewards/#unclaimed-funds

Re: Brave Search beta

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Post by bosswipe »

My dream for a search engine is to be able to exclude the entire ad+seo web from my results by filtering out any results that have 3rd part ad javascript. Then we could actually find the non-commercial web again and hopefully help it grow.

This search engine is just trying to copy google's with a few tweaks in the result, not that interesting.

Re: Brave Search beta

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Post by iudqnolq »

Nicksil wrote: post #228
lawl wrote: post #220

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> You seem to be dismissing instant answers when in-fact those are exactly what the end-user expects; that's search results: Type in a query, get an answer. What am I missing here? No, I didn't, and in my first post I also said they aren't from bing: > What's not from bing are the widgets like weather, or dictionary definitions etc I also said that I've used ddg for years. Presumably that had a reason? I said the mai…

I stated >Bing is one of many sources from which duckduckgo derives its results You stated >Not true. I then backed-up my statement with a source. You still haven't made clear what part of my statement was not true.

Obviously they're saying (correctly) that the part that isn't true is the part where you said the search results aren't directly from bing. And by search results they clearly mean the list of links wherein you click on a link and go to a webpage that matches your query.

Re: Brave Search beta

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Post by throwaway292893 »

azinman2 wrote: post #217

I find it very interesting that Eich was outsted from Mozilla for his anti-gay stance, and much of HN was in agreement at the time, yet this seems to never come up with Brave despite LGBTQ rights having far stronger support today. Why is that?

Yes lets all grab pitchforks and chase him out of town because of his religious beliefs.

So sick of leftists and your constant attacks in the name of diversity.

Go find a hobby, you're not trying to further any cause or help anyone, you're just looking to cause drama and attack people.

It was the majority opinion to oppose same-sex marriage. Are we going to cancel everyone who once or still supports it? Remember we are still very much a Christian country. Obama in 2008 ran against same-sex marriage and cited his Christian beliefs as the reason.

We'd have to cancel many people's careers to pass your purity test of a clean history of accepted beliefs.

In the woke world, similar to North Korea, if you commit a thought crime, you will be considered dirty blood, and it will be attributed to your family and friends as well.

Re: Brave Search beta

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Post by Nicksil »

iudqnolq wrote: post #234
Nicksil wrote: post #228

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I stated >Bing is one of many sources from which duckduckgo derives its results You stated >Not true. I then backed-up my statement with a source. You still haven't made clear what part of my statement was not true.

Obviously they're saying (correctly) that the part that isn't true is the part where you said the search results aren't directly from bing. And by search results they clearly mean the list of links wherein you click on a link and go to a webpage that matches your query.

>Obviously they're saying(correctly) that the part that isn't true is the part where you said the search results aren't directly from bing.

This makes no sense. What I said is still there. I said that Bing is one source used to derive the results DDG returns.

Re: Brave Search beta

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Post by mthoms »

decrypt wrote: post #210
mthoms wrote: post #190

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It's just a redirect to Google.

There seem to be two different features: 1. Redirection to Google. 2. Piping Google's results back to Brave Search's UI: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27594754 The original commenter was asking about the latter.

Ah, I see, Thanks for the heads up.

Re: Brave Search beta

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Post by jonathansampson »

judge2020 wrote: post #231
jonathansampson wrote: post #164

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you read the post covering the feature in Brave, and reviewed the screenshots of its implementation, you'd see that the intent here was to respond to user input, and offer the user the option of using Brave's referral link. The intent was never to coerce users into using the link; it was merely presented as an option—a clean and clear way to support Brave development. It is still an example of traffic attribution,…

If binance is fine with it then sure, but it's not like Binance is getting any extra sign-ups thanks to Brave from these suggestions, they're just giving up a percentage of their trading fees when it happens (the user would have signed up regardless of if you allowed them to use the optional referral code or not).

Fair point. Agreed :)

Re: Brave Search beta

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Post by bmarquez »

vlunkr wrote: post #81

I really don't understand Brave. What special thing do they offer that people actually want? The main concrete selling point seems to built-in ad blockers, but we've had that for ages in every other browser. They have some crypto stuff going on, I'll be honest, I don't understand it, because I don't care, I just want to browse the web. That should be possible without a blockchain. They claim performance is better, bu…

> What special thing do they offer that people actually want?

Brave has iOS bookmarks sync with Windows, while preserving privacy (by not asking for an email to create an account).

Firefox and Edge require an account, Vivaldi doesn't have an iOS app, Safari requires a separate iCloud install on Windows, and Chrome is a non-starter for privacy reasons.

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