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Australian Federal Police and FBI nab underworld figures using encrypted app

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Re: Australian Federal Police and FBI nab underworld figures using encrypted app

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Post by cheph »

cromka wrote: post #70

What we've learned is only what was in Austrlia's piece of the cake, given they started their day already. New Zeland had theirs already, too. I imagine thousands of arrests are still happening worldwide and several press conferences are going to be held today. Looking at the seal of the operation ( https://www.anom.io/trojan_shield_seal.jpg ), following countries participated in the operation: Canada, Australia, US,…

> I expect a few prominent politicians to be soon either arrested or "convinced" to step down.

Won't happen because the media and FANG runs cover for politicians in the west as opposed to reporting on them.

They keep burring anything that can be slightly damaging to politicians while they dox private individuals with impunity.

Re: Australian Federal Police and FBI nab underworld figures using encrypted app

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Post by Vespasian »

dalbasal wrote: post #78
olalonde wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Funny how that form is essentially asking users to dox themselves. I wonder how many will take the bait.

" To determine if your account is associated with an ongoing investigation, please enter any device details below: " Seems like they're flexing.

It probably directs to a static page saying "YES" because after entering all that information your account will be under investigation for sure ;)

Re: Australian Federal Police and FBI nab underworld figures using encrypted app

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

x86_64Ubuntu wrote: post #230
wallaBBB wrote: post #187

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One of the (publicly unspoken) conditions to offer VPN services in western countries is to keep logs and provide on their request, regardless of the marketing stories. There are several verifiable cases where Nord has cooperated with FBI and Interpol and provided logs, but this is a fairly small lie, compared to the time when they tried to keep quiet about a breach. Not saying that having a VPN service from Russia or…

Russia and China would in fact be a better solution as most Westerners are never going to be subject to Russian or Chinese authorities.

> most Westerners are never going to be subject to Russian or Chinese authorities

Coercible locals are a valuable asset. Not sure why countries with zero rule of law would be attractive to someone valuing a principle like privacy.

Re: Australian Federal Police and FBI nab underworld figures using encrypted app

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Post by hemloc_io »

Seems like duplication and infiltration is becoming a more common tactic amoung LE.

There's some pretty convincing speculation Dream market was setup as a similar operation to this. [0]

If this proves anything it's that the fear mongering by LE about encryption was overblown and they're just lazy lol.

0: https://youtu.be/1VZkiQUzITU

Re: Australian Federal Police and FBI nab underworld figures using encrypted app

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Post by vkou »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #236
x86_64Ubuntu wrote: post #230

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Russia and China would in fact be a better solution as most Westerners are never going to be subject to Russian or Chinese authorities.

> most Westerners are never going to be subject to Russian or Chinese authorities Coercible locals are a valuable asset. Not sure why countries with zero rule of law would be attractive to someone valuing a principle like privacy.

Any locals in any country are coercible to their government, if it really wants to.

Re: Australian Federal Police and FBI nab underworld figures using encrypted app

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Post by Ovah »

dagw wrote: post #132
cromka wrote: post #70

What we've learned is only what was in Austrlia's piece of the cake, given they started their day already. New Zeland had theirs already, too. I imagine thousands of arrests are still happening worldwide and several press conferences are going to be held today. Looking at the seal of the operation ( https://www.anom.io/trojan_shield_seal.jpg ), following countries participated in the operation: Canada, Australia, US,…

Sweden just announced 155 arrests: https://www.svt.se/nyheter/inrikes/europol-berattar-om-det-o...

Which amounts to almost 20% of those arrested. Maybe it's partly due to Sweden historically having strong computer literacy. Only time will tell.

Re: Australian Federal Police and FBI nab underworld figures using encrypted app

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Post by ocdtrekkie »

wallaBBB wrote: post #187
RachelF wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Makes you wonder how many commercial VPN services are just FBI honeypots?

One of the (publicly unspoken) conditions to offer VPN services in western countries is to keep logs and provide on their request, regardless of the marketing stories. There are several verifiable cases where Nord has cooperated with FBI and Interpol and provided logs, but this is a fairly small lie, compared to the time when they tried to keep quiet about a breach. Not saying that having a VPN service from Russia or…

Generally speaking, they all have to have relatively short term logs to operate and protect their services. This tends to defeat things like piracy, where commercial actors need time to file paperwork and get subpoenas, by which time the logs are gone, but obviously the feds can move a lot faster and tend to get what they need to catch serious criminal activity.

This would, to me, suggest VPN services are a general societal good, as they prohibit annoying corporate IP enforcement behaviors, while not meaningfully helping pedophiles and terrorists.

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