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Apple has a decade-long lead in wearables

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Re: Apple has a decade-long lead in wearables

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Post by ac29 »

snowwrestler wrote: post #136
amelius wrote: post #121

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> Apple's weakness is now their precarious position in bed with China, which will take decades to undo. But this holds for the entire world economy.

Kind of, but among the largest tech companies, Apple uniquely runs most of its revenue through the hardware category, and gets a lot of revenue from China. Google (Alphabet), Microsoft, Amazon, Facebook all use hardware from China, but most of their revenue comes through software interactions. Google does not officially even operate in China. Amazon has a limited corporate footprint in China. I think it’s reasonable…

> Google does not officially even operate in China

Google lists three offices in mainland China:

https://about.google/intl/ALL_us/locations/?region=asia-paci...

Re: Apple has a decade-long lead in wearables

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Post by ska »

jayd16 wrote: post #77
ska wrote: post #51

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I'm not sure what argument you are trying to make. That in some putative future where AR headsets become a meaningful product category for wearable Apple might not be in a strong position? True but not really germane.

If the article isn't implying Apple is ahead in AR wearables I guess I don't understand why AR wearables are brought up at all.

I suppose for why you would have to take that context from the article; the argument that was in the "out there" parts of AR (e.g. glasses/goggles) nobody has shipped anything with real impact, but in the less flashy areas (e.g. assistive touch) Apple is years ahead. Plus a bit about M&A shifting apples capability in these areas. All sounds plausible. What this translates to in some potential future where more ambitious AR projects find a fit with consumers, who knows. But it terms of systems that ship today, article seems pretty accurate, and not at all deserving of your "what a joke".

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Post by rubicon33 »

tshaddox wrote: post #187
rubicon33 wrote: post #168

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To start a timer, raise your watch to your mouth and simply say “start 1 hour timer”. You don’t even need to say “hey Siri”. It starts listening on the gesture of raising it to your mouth. Genius. Raise watch to mouth and try things… “Text Danielle ____” “Open Pandora” “Open wallet” There are also settings to disable active watch face unless it’s raised. I have that enabled and never have issues accidentally hitting…

The raise-and-speak feature is extremely unreliable. It seems to refuse to trigger if you’ve interacted with the watch in the last few seconds, so if you try to speak to it and it doesn’t trigger, it certainly won’t trigger when you immediately try again. It also triggers all the time accidentally when my watch was nowhere near my mouth. I frequently look at the watch and see a message like “I don’t understand that”…

Very interesting. Personally, I don't have any of the issues you've mentioned.

I wonder if we're somehow using it differently? Different model? Not sure what could explain the delta in our experiences.

I never use "Hey Siri" because I've always found my phone just easier to unlock and manually operate. The watch however seems to be a really great application of voice control.

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Post by btowngar »

ValentineC wrote: post #66
btowngar wrote: post #30

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I’m T1 diabetic and use my watch for monitoring my glucose levels. I wear it 100% of the time, aside from showering when it charges. Charging quickly and having a minimum of 24hrs of charge is really important to me. Apple Watch hits both of those.

Do you have a separate accessory for monitoring glucose? I'm really looking forward to the Series 7 which is rumoured to have blood glucose monitoring.

Yes, I use a Dexcom G6. If the rumors of the Series 7 having a glucose monitor and a blood pressure monitor on it are true, that would be incredible. They’re surely working on core body temperature monitoring too!

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Post by datagram »

flyinglizard wrote: post #6
lettergram wrote: post #4

Pebble IMO was and still is the best wearable watch. I don’t think anything worked better largely due to the long battery life and generally the e-ink design. Had they added different wrist bands with smart tech in it, it would have gone even further. I don’t really think apple has a decade lead, what they do have is minimal innovation they’re competing with. AND more importantly, a brand and ecosystem. That being sa…

I don’t get why battery life is important beyond 24h. I just put the watch on its charger at night. Only downside is during traveling, one more thing to carry and possibly the watch won’t make it through excruciating international travel. So it won’t matter to me if the watch lasts a day or a week, it’s off my wrist when I sleep and goes on it’s charger.

To me, smartwatches are about making my life more convenient (not taking my phone out of my pocket). So any inconvenience is going to be a big deal.

Having gone from a Wear OS watch with ~1d battery life to a hybrid e-ink watch with ~2w battery life I don't think I'll ever go back, even though I'm giving up features. You already mentioned travel, but an even bigger issue for me was that if my watch didn't get charged overnight for whatever reason (watch wasn't sitting correctly on the charger, fell asleep with my watch on, etc.), I'd basically have a paperweight on my wrist the next day. And having to disable features (always-on display) to get my watch to last through the day always felt silly.

Overall, it's just one less thing to worry about on a daily basis. If I ever see a low battery warning on my watch, I know that it'll still last for more than a day.

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Post by DennisAleynikov »

tinus_hn wrote: post #210
DennisAleynikov wrote: post #54

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I have been using the samsung line of watches since before apple watch was ever a thing, despite some heart rate variance the leadership in payments samsung commanded was and still is unparalleled. people with apple pay carry a backup card, a samsung watch allows paying with magstripe emulation in case of legacy terminals. pre 2020 pandemic this was indespensible and there are still often inoperable nfc terminals and…

In other news, Apple devices are not compatible with obsolete standards. Magstripe is insecure and obsolete and in no way a backup for nfc payments. Skimming is a thing.

what? skimming is a thing and MST is not an insecure solution on top of magstripe, since it generates temporary cards per every few transactions. It is a backup for a traditional card, not something meant to be similar to NFC since its just a legacy method of payment that is still accepted more places than nfc.

you could try to use one of those temporary numbers but whats the likelyhood it expires before malicious reuse?

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