We decided to start shoto as newsletter instead doing an app because of some of the reason mentioned on the site. Everyone has an email account to begin with and they check their emails daily. I personally love email.
Just Use Email – How to Use Email for Everything
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As SPF, DKIM and DMARC have become more widely implemented, is IP reputation less of a factor than it used to be in spam detection algorithms? This is just my speculation, but it seems plausible.
Why would it be less of a factor? These things don't prevent spam. I can create a proper mail server with all these and send billion messages from it wherever I like. These technologies prevent various kinds of forgeries. Quick look at my archive, of 37k spams only 7k fails SPF. (I accept all email no matter what.) So it's some signal, but not nearly enough.
SPF will pass if there is no SPF record in the domain. Which most probably is the case for most.
Look for DKIM. Either it's signed and pass. Or spam if DKIM is missing. You can filter a lot more this way.
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#233I'm on the exact opposite end of the spectrum. I haven't used email outside of work for many years now, and don't miss it one bit. And even at work most communication now happens on Slack. The digital world has evolved since 1997, and email simply hasn't kept up. I skimmed a couple articles on the blog and my biggest problem with it is that the author is making a social rather than technological argument (which are a…
> Do you just hate having friends in general?
It has nothing to do with hating or not, it just depends on the number of friends and the intensity of incoming communication - not all people are the same. After you cross certain threshold synchronous communication becomes unmanageable and basically prevents you from doing your daily activities as you'd want.
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If you want clean IPs for self-hosting a mail server, you can use a service we created called Hoppy Network: https://hoppy.network Our IP addresses are not on any blacklists, and we don't block SMTP or mail ports.
I also just found out about a service called Tailscale (maybe 30 mins ago). It's not a field I have investigated but both your services and theirs sounded vaguely useful for some problems I'm having. Are they somewhat similar? It sounds like I could solve the same problems in perhaps two different ways.
I think they are pretty different, just both using the same underlying protocol.
Tailscale (which we have been using to great effect over the last year or so) provides effectively a 'LAN' where the devices can be anywhere. It provides you with a second interface in the 100.x.x.x range. You can trust that any traffic from that range has been authenticated to connect to your Tailscale network.
Hoppy (as I understand it, I've never used it) is more solving the issue of getting a static IP assigned, with the advantage of it following your device if it moves between networks. You get a second interface that is publicly visible, but can't trust traffic coming in from it.
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> Worst of all, Gmail especially isn't great about tagging messages as spam My experience is the exact opposite of yours - I find Gmail's spam detection absolutely amazing. I get essentially zero spam in my inbox, and perhaps 4-6 false positives in the spam folder a month. >As a Gmail user, there is nothing you can do to verify that you're getting all of the legitimate mail traffic that is being sent to you. What oth…
> 4-6 false positives in the spam folder a month. That seems like a lot; with FastMail I get basically 0. The last time this happened was years ago. I do get the very occasional spam, maybe 5 messages/month or so. Most of them are from marketing agencies that want to "collaborate" on my website or some such and have a spam score of 0 or close to it, and arguably isn't "spam" in the same way as "grow a bigger dick!"-s…
With Fastmail I get a lot of messages purporting to be from Fastmail threatening account termination/verification, something along those lines. Most of them are automatically sent to spam.
Re: Just Use Email – How to Use Email for Everything
#236I've been hacking on a project to make email a little more asynchronous as I took use it for everything. I love email, but the constant inbound pings make it a direct line to me/my time. In that sense, email is broken and I'm hoping to help change that and allow people to focus more effectively. Paced Email * is a service that buffers emails and send them to you in one go at a time of your choosing either daily, weekly or monthly. The aliases can be created on the fly too e.g. johndoe.hackernews@daily.paced.email.
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> However, I'm not sure if it will ever be the popular thing even among the free software options. I'm one of the many people actively working on XMPP projects. Is there something in particular that makes you think this? People often talk about XMPP in the past tense on HN. It's understandable, XMPP had a peak of popularity with the adoption of Google Talk, but Google being Google and shutting that down did not end X…
Check out Google Trends with XMPP
Can that predict the future? ;)
I feel it's right that a protocol doesn't need to be in the general consciousness. See the even worse Google trend for SMTP, for example, despite email still being considered a growing network.
I wrote a bit about protocols being for developers and not users at https://snikket.org/blog/products-vs-protocols/
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#238I'm on the exact opposite end of the spectrum. I haven't used email outside of work for many years now, and don't miss it one bit. And even at work most communication now happens on Slack. The digital world has evolved since 1997, and email simply hasn't kept up. I skimmed a couple articles on the blog and my biggest problem with it is that the author is making a social rather than technological argument (which are a…
I'm with you, I absolutely cannot stand using email unless I absolutely have to, which is mostly just at work. And it's a fine way for government or businesses to contact me, just like mail was. But just like mail letter writing declined after the invention of the telephone, e-mail has declined after the invention of IM
Right now I need to maintain (and routinely check) a physical mailing address, a telephone number, and an email address just in order to set up and use various day-to-day services provided by government and businesses. When will it end?
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When you move to a new country that has a dominant messaging app, you can't avoid installing it without making your life a lot more difficult. And moving already makes your life difficult enough.
The real question though is how you determine the “dominant app”, that’s really not that obvious, especially when you don’t speak the local language. Long term you might be right, installing an app would be beneficial, but in the short term it’s a lot safer to just use email.
I think in most cases it's fairly obvious. I moved to a country that mainly use Whatsapp, and you can't miss it. People will tell you that they "Whatsapp" you, they ask for your "Whatsapp", your bank advertises customer support on Whatsapp, your local barber has the Whatsapp logo on his door, your colleagues want to add you to their Whatsapp group, your landlord sends the bills on Whatsapp, ads in the metro have the Whatsapp logo…
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Then should we not amend the protocol to define these things? Why reinvent the wheel, when we could improve it?
> Then should we not amend the protocol to define these things? Most of the OP list of things they don't like are about client UI presentation. Inherently unrelated to the protocol itself. I don't have any of those issues because I use a client that does the interaction and presentation exactly how I like it.
What client is that?