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Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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> Chromium-based browsers give precedence to websites over user settings when it comes to decide whether pre-fetching is disabled or not.

Classic google/chrome “Yeah I know you’ve got these setting, but I’m just going to ignore them because this website wants to do it”.

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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post #41

This is honestly one of the first time I'm convinced in a technical sense to consider Firefox over Chrome. uBlock Origin feels as core to me to web browsing as Saved Passwords and Incognito Mode. That uBlock Origin can work better is like the browser itself being better.

Never really got the appeal of Chrome. Firefox worked very well for me for years.

I don't trust Mozilla to not break my workflow or remove features I use or ignore debilitating bugs for upwards of a decade in some ham-handed attempt to "keep me safe".

That sounds pithy, and it is, but Mozilla burned every ounce of goodwill they ever had with me over the last 5 years or so.

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Just reinstalled Firefox due to this info

Yea not sure if anyone on the Firefox team is reading but I have not had any reason to consider Firefox until reading this thread.

If Firefox made their browser the best at ad-blocking instead of performance (which also might go hand in hand) I would consider using it again.

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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I can’t look up a recipe for boiled eggs without coming upon a 15 paragraph essay with ads in between each paragraph. It’s so obnoxious now. I don’t mind that people want to monetize, but it’s getting off putting when it is so obnoxious.

I made https://thisfoodblogdoesnotexist.com as satire. It uses GPT2 to generate blog content like those 15 paragraph essays.

Some of the recipes seem actually plausible, e.g. https://thisfoodblogdoesnotexist.com/30-Minute-Rice-Pudding-...

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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post #177

I started using Brave in addition to Firefox recently and I was curious if it supports this. Seems like it does ( https://brave.com/privacy-updates-6/ ) and uBlock origin was the inspiration for that feature. I never used uBlock, but I did use uMatrix (discontinued, but still working) which allows you very fine grained control over scripts and other resources based on the domain. Unfortunately it was a pain to get so…

Brave is Chromium-based and suffers from all of the limitations stated in the parent article. (Except for CNAME cloaking. However, their CNAME uncloaking only applies to their built-in tracking protection. AFAIK, if you use uBo on Brave it will be still unable to uncloak CNAMES.)

> Brave is Chromium-based and suffers from all of the limitations stated in the parent article.

Only for extensions. Brave Shields is implemented in natively compiled Rust and C++ (which is even more efficient than WebAssembly), is able to load rules before making any network requests, uses a compressed filter list data representation, and prefetching is disabled entirely in Brave. The only thing currently missing from that list is HTML filtering, which is fairly rare in practice and generally has fallback rules in popular lists anyways.

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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post #46

I can't live without uBlock Origin and uMatrix, and was sad to see uMatrix archived [0]. Still works great, but I'm wondering what will happen long term. Anyone also use both and since drop uMatrix for something else, or just uBlock? How is it? [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24532973

So do you have it installed in your pacemaker or something...?

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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post #191

Such a shame uMatrix was discontinued. uBlock Origin comes close, and surpasses in some ways (I used both for that reason) but lacks separate control of cookies, images, scripts, etc. So you can't accept a particular third party's images without also accepting its scripts, cookies, etc. I mention it mainly in the hope that we can popularise its maintained fork 'nuTensor'. After trying uBlock (as in attempting to also…

I find ublock much more granular than umatrix. It can block all js and allow a particular one, block just a segment of inline scripts.

It can block separately a single script, image or any other request. I find it much better than umatrix which can't do many things that ublock does. If someone wantd to they can just install it and forget it also. Much more versatile.

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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I think Firefox's shortcomings are overstated. Often they're actually Mozilla's rather than Firefox's. There are other things I consider superior about Firefox that Chrome has yet to implement: - Multi-account containers is a killer feature IMO. I have different containers for banking, Facebook, a container for every email, a container for every Google/YouTube account, and so forth. - The option to enable canvas perm…

I love FF. It's fantastic on macOS and the customization beats every single other browser out of the water. BUT, and I know this is controversial, and I know the foundation is not the same as those who manage the browser, after the events on the capitol they released and statements saying something like "deplatforming is not enough" and even though I asked several times, I could never get a confirmation from anyone w…

I certainly can't offer any official word, but telemetry doesn't have enough data to spy on anyone, and the privacy policy spells this out pretty clearly. And if something snuck in, it's all open source and I imagine people would raise a big stink pretty quickly (whatever their political leanings were).

I remember that post, and I think you're mischaracterizing it. The point wasn't that "deplatforming is a good start, but we need to go even farther"; it was "deplatforming is not the right solution, we need something better".

As for trying to block harmful content -- Mozilla is already doing that, all the time, so you're certainly not going to get any promise there. Firefox blocks malware, sites with expired/mismatching certificates, things on the (un)safe browsing list, 3rd party cookies in some configurations, etc. Whether any of those constitute censorship is up for you to decide. Right now, it feels fine to me, but I agree that there's reason for concern. All the browsers have all the mechanisms necessary for censorship, and there's no way to crisply define "harmful".

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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post #226

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I had to remove multi-account containers due to issues with syncing, namely on a windows 8.1 install, and it causing a TON of browser bloat and CPU usage on MacOS and Linux and my windows 10 desktop in a fairly recent past. It’s unfortunate. Plan to try it again but it was borderline burdensome that x containers or place settings wouldn’t sync or that the Mac mini or linux box would start sounding like a jet engine.

> box would start sounding like a jet engine. Not sure about the container connection, but Firefox also now has 'about:performance' which is pretty much like 'top for browser tabs'. When things start getting bogged down I can now find the culprit and nuke it. about:memory is also useful, it allows you to force garbage collection on the browser as a whole.

about:performance is a little limited, especially if you have a single window, because switching to it makes it the foreground tab and all the other tabs background tabs. Background tabs can be throttled, and generally behave very differently.

(There's an experimental sidebar extension that works better and gives a graphical history, but I'm pretty sure it's unfinished and unavailable for general use. Hopefully it'll come out sometime.)

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