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Re: Pangolin – Mobile AMD laptop with Ryzen CPU and Radeon graphics

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I don't understand why many of these workstation-class laptops have num. pads. It is so annoying to type with your hands off-center from the screen.

I don't understand why many workstation-class laptops DONT have a num pads. It is so annoying to have to type long sequences of digits without one.

Do numbers constitute even 5% of your keyboard usage time?

Re: Pangolin – Mobile AMD laptop with Ryzen CPU and Radeon graphics

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I have the Dell G5 4800H (AMD iGPU+AMD dGPU), there are a couple of graphic driver issues under Linux. I'm using the USB-C connection which is connected to the iGPU. * Locks up on suspend/resume * Locks up when inserting an external USB-C monitor * Requires a recent kernel to work properly (5.8 or later) * Locks up without amdgpu.runpm=0 kernel command line * dGPU can't be turned off, so increases power consumption *…

Wow. I've got a Dell Latitude 5505 with a 4700u. It's worked great so far except for plugging into Dell's USB-c dock in the morning. This is a guessing game of which (of 3) monitors are going to work, often requiring opening/closing the lid a time or two or turning on/off screens. Battery life is decent (VERY good if you turn down brightness and ssh to your work) and it's blazing fast. It does get egg cooking hot whe…

I have a Dell monitor which has a built-in USB-C hub. I experience similar issues when plugging in my MacBook Pro - the monitor part works fine, but the keyboard/mouse usually takes a few attempts at plugging in ("docking"). Might not be your laptop so much as Dell's USB-C dock acting up.

Re: Pangolin – Mobile AMD laptop with Ryzen CPU and Radeon graphics

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I don't understand why many workstation-class laptops DONT have a num pads. It is so annoying to have to type long sequences of digits without one.

Do numbers constitute even 5% of your keyboard usage time?

Depends on what you're doing: any kind of 3D work requires a numpad to be effective, since that's typically where camera controls are bound in every workflow I've seen.

Re: Pangolin – Mobile AMD laptop with Ryzen CPU and Radeon graphics

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I find it weird that non-Mac laptops either come with 1080 or 4k display options. Mac displays look incredible, and the 16" MBP resolution is 3072 × 1920 - basically 70% of the pixels on a 4k monitor.

Indeed as backend developer screen real estate is much more important than super accurate colour or viewing angles.

Do you run your mac at native res? The default is 900p with pixel doubling (and some fonts at native res). Basically anything other than doubled or native has a performance and battery life penalty relative to those two modes.

This has less space than 4k at 200% (normal for 15") or 1080p at 100%.

Re: Pangolin – Mobile AMD laptop with Ryzen CPU and Radeon graphics

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I don't understand why many of these workstation-class laptops have num. pads. It is so annoying to type with your hands off-center from the screen.

Ever try using Blender without one? You absolutely need the numpad for 3D programs and game engines, otherwise it's outright painful.

Re: Pangolin – Mobile AMD laptop with Ryzen CPU and Radeon graphics

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I don't understand why many of these workstation-class laptops have num. pads. It is so annoying to type with your hands off-center from the screen.

Ever try using Blender without one? You absolutely need the numpad for 3D programs and game engines, otherwise it's outright painful.

You can always add a usb numpad, but you can never remove one that is already there.

Re: Pangolin – Mobile AMD laptop with Ryzen CPU and Radeon graphics

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Would buy in a heartbeat if it had a 4k display. Hard to go back to 1080p after six years of Retina and 4K displays.

Honestly find it hard to notice much difference in the display quality between my 1080p 2018 XPS laptop and my 1800p 2019 Mac laptop. Actually the XPS is slightly preferable to me because the matte vs glossy finish outweighs the extra resolution at that size for me. I guess that could just be my sight, but the reviews for the XPS laptop vs the 4k model of the same were pretty much unanimous on the 4k variant being a…

It could be your sight, or the size of your display. You never mentioned how big it was. If it's a monster 18" laptop then the difference between 1080 and 4k is a lot more significant than if it's a 14" display where you almost can't even tell the difference. It's all about pixels per inch. I always prefer higher quality pixels as opposed to more of them, I don't mind 1080p if it's extremely accurate colour and amazing viewing angles, but that's just me.

Re: Pangolin – Mobile AMD laptop with Ryzen CPU and Radeon graphics

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post #196

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Honestly find it hard to notice much difference in the display quality between my 1080p 2018 XPS laptop and my 1800p 2019 Mac laptop. Actually the XPS is slightly preferable to me because the matte vs glossy finish outweighs the extra resolution at that size for me. I guess that could just be my sight, but the reviews for the XPS laptop vs the 4k model of the same were pretty much unanimous on the 4k variant being a…

> could just be my sight It is 1080p to 4k is such a large difference

Really? On a 13" display? I bet in a blind AB test at a normal viewing distance you wouldn't even be able to accurately tell me which is which.

Re: Pangolin – Mobile AMD laptop with Ryzen CPU and Radeon graphics

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I can't speak to the 4700u or the pangolin specifically, but I can offer this perspective on PopOS/AMD: I've been using System76's PopOS with my Asus Zephyrus G14 (4800hs) as a daily driver and I really like it. (freelance/web) The battery life is comparable to Windows (on integrated graphics mode, it has graphics switching available)at 7-10 hours with 70% brightness and balanced power settings using VScode and firef…

Especially in a post-COVID world where home offices are more common and possibly with even less travel, I think battery life is quite overrated for many people. I have a Serval Workstation (i.e. high-power laptop) from System76 and absolutely love it. The battery doesn't last very long especially if I'm doing heavy-lifting on the GPU, but I very rarely go somewhere I can't plug in. I need to be able to fold up my "wo…

Indeed, LG's 32wh battery laptop rated at 23 hours instantly comes to mind.

For Intel based laptops built in the last 10 years basically the only thing making a difference in battery life for laptops with same CPU is screen, and battery.

Everything else is almost the same everywhere. NVME SSD + WiFi will uniformly eat 2W. Power conversion will also eat at to 500-800mW. All other peripherals combined will unlikely to eat more than 1 watt, with exception of 1GB ethernet if working full speed.

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