DDoS-Guard to forfeit internet space occupied by Parler

Post by aegis4244 » Fri, Jan 22, 2021, 8:04 AM UTC

AnthonyMouse wrote: post #156

gruez wrote: post #99

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>In principle, it would be like police enforcing certain traffic laws (say, about changing lanes or making a turn without signaling) much more strictly against black people than against white people. This is easily reconciled if you distinguish between the public officials doing the selective enforcing, and private citizens selectively deciding who to do research on. Let's say 20% of waiters at a restaurant under-rep…

> This is easily reconciled if you distinguish between the public officials doing the selective enforcing, and private citizens selectively deciding who to do research on. So you're fine with private employers who do criminal background checks on black applicants but not white applicants? Or a third party entity that does background checks on all black people (and only black people) and then submits the results to em…

Post by aaron695 » Fri, Jan 22, 2021, 8:20 AM UTC

syntaxing wrote: post #214

aaron695 wrote: post #197

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Not sure I get what you are saying, per article - > The pending disruption for DDoS-Guard and Parler comes compliments of Ron Guilmette, a researcher who has made it something of a personal mission to de-platform conspiracy theorist and far-right groups. By finding things someone or a company has done to deplatforming them, it's not deplatforming when they get deplatforming if? Maybe try reading "The Dictator's Handb…

It is still target reporting. Not targeting enforcement. Deplatforming would be LACNIC terminating the addresses strictly because they host some sort of content. Terminating addresses because they lied on their contract is another story. Ron Guilmette targeting DDoS-Guard is true but that is still not deplatforming.

Post by GoblinSlayer » Fri, Jan 22, 2021, 8:37 AM UTC

klyrs wrote: post #98

kfogel wrote: post #91

There might be a selective enforcement issue here? If it turns out that lots of the IP address space is doled out based on semi-fraudulent claims like this (assuming that Guilmette's claim is correct that DDos-Guard doesn't really have a physical Latin American presence), but the only cases where the corresponding NIC takes action is when someone complains for content-motivated reasons, then... that's biased selectiv…

Attacking the capitol building got LOTS of attention by a lot of people. It was an extremely conspicuous, highly publicized crime. So yeah, folks are looking into the people involved, and their associates. Much of enforcement relies on the public to notice and report wrongdoing.

Post by Andrew_nenakhov » Fri, Jan 22, 2021, 8:39 AM UTC

AnthonyMouse wrote: post #157

danans wrote: post #116

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> Does censorship, even if justified, fuel anger and distrust Anger and distrust are sparked, stoked and fueled far more by personalities in media and politics who actively promote them than by de-platforming. > Is it possible to bring fringe groups back into the fold of peaceful civil discourse People organizing and advocating violence are not fringe groups. The paradox of tolerance applies here: You can't extend to…

> The paradox of tolerance applies here: You can't extend tolerance to those who advocate for intolerance without destroying tolerance in the process. I don't understand how this is a paradox. You can't extend tolerance to people who commit arson and murder, or e.g. refuse to hire black people because they're black. You can let people say whatever they want, because then you can refute their arguments and refuse to i…

Post by afiori » Fri, Jan 22, 2021, 8:45 AM UTC

goatinaboat wrote: post #238

aneutron wrote: post #227

I don't get it. Do people not read the article first ? There's no "deplatforming" happening here. DDoS-Guard is using IPs from Belize (a country in latin america) using a shell company there. That's against the contactual obligations. So the Latin America IP association (lacnic) is simply reclaiming the fraudulently assigned IPs. Some of these IPs were used by Parler. Please read the article first ....

simply reclaiming the fraudulently assigned IPs. I hope the island of Tuvalu reclaims all those .tv domains then, not to mention .io.